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To: Andy Thomas who wrote (1419)	3/17/2002 8:21:02 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

Would you care to respond to this post from a few days ago. Or do you just enjoy slinging around insults without providing any reason?? Hi There andy. Thanks so much for the kind words. You said...." you are completely and utterly full of shit".... You said this in reaction to this post from me...." Hdl. You said...." no wonder the muslims turn away from the culture of the West".... Don't think they turned away from western culture, they never were part of it and their religion requires that they kill us folks if they can. And if I remember correctly some of the muslim terrorists of Sept 11, spent their last night on earth with prostitutes. I guess they accept some parts of other cultures. :o) Take care Lorne "..... Well you have proved to all that you have a big mouth which you use before you think so maybe you could go back a step ( not hard to go back a step or two, muslims have been doing it for over a thousand years ) anyway go back a step and tell me why you say ..." you are completely and utterly full of shit"..... Did someone " Poop " in your corn flakes this morning?. :o) Message 17201461

To: Andy Thomas who wrote (1419)	3/18/2002 5:26:39 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

Andy.. >>>>--believing that MASS in the form of objectified reality is REAL. And this is TOTAL INSANITY!!!>>>> -- >>when i was a kid my catholic friends didn't seem to care much for MASS... >> And perhaps this is why. My wife was raised Catholic. And a few times we did attend St. Casimir's parish church down in Hammon Indiana where she grew up. Quite an experience! The mass was in polish with a little bit of English in the beginning and at the end. But this Priest was a hell raiser!! There were some masses we attended which were in English and the bottom line was fear, fear, fear and more fear. He shouted and pointed his fingers and everything else. Talk about DIVIDING, CLAIMING the Energy "E"!!! e / c = MASS You got it!! I wanted to crawl underneath my pew and get out of bedrock. The emotional damage that's been done by these religions which have been claiming the mantle of our Lord's energy, light and truth for centuries has been incredible. This is the expression of EVIL. It has nothing to do with "religion" and the Gospell of our Lord. The Lord came into this world to FREE mankind from the insanity of this claim, blame and shame madness and insanity. And the leaders of these models DO NOT want the "average Andy" to understand how simple and beautiful and childlike the message of our Lord's truth to mankind really is. It all depends on whether we are receiving these truths naturally or spiritually. The bottom line is that we all HAVE to first receive them naturally for we are ALL coming from the same conditional claim, blame and shame matrix which is this Kingdom of Hell here on earth. But if we ask, with a humble mind and heart, for the Lord to "show us" the beginning of these simple spiritual understandings and truths he will do so. For all goodness, all light, all truth, all wisdom and all love can only come from Him, by Him, for Him, in Him and with Him etc. Gradually he will reveal to us the true spiritual truths and meanings of the Word. And this makes the Word come alive with meaning! For He focuses on teaching about ENERGY, not MASS. All mankind can do is teach about things which are natural which means things which have these natural-conditional labels, definitions and words which work more to divide and claim the energy, light and Love of our Lord's creation. And this process of "division" is the process of "claiming the rights to the energy-light-love" which takes the fun and meaning and color and energy and light and love OUT of the equation. We unwittingly and unknowingly end up worshipping the Gods of mankind's religion which is this worship of objectified un-reality in the form of MASS instead of spiritual reality in the form of ENERGY. These are the Gods of limits, restrictions, labels, definitions, rules, stipulations, controls which form the matrix of slavery and evil which has been haunting and terrorizing the individuals of this world for centuries. But these Old Control-Distrust matrixes are being exposed from here on out and this process will accelerate with each passing day. The Gods of this earth will be thrown down and forever shut of to remain where they belong which is deep in the bowels and caves of Hell itself. For a New Day and a New Age of Peace, Light and Love is dawning on this world. And all of mankind is invited to the wedding feast of the return of our Lord's spirit to this world which is being manifested in so many ways in so many places which will continue to duplicate, replicate and radiate all over this universe. This truly is a glorious time to be a witness to this transformation which is afoot. For we are all being called into account. The time is NOW!! The place is this world. For our ONE Lord God in Heaven is re-establishing the Kingdom of Heaven here on this earth which has always existed but mankind has been in complete total and utter denial of. BTW, we attend a completely different version of the claim, blame and shame hellfire and damnation Catholic church here in Evanston. It's called the Shiel Center and it the most un-Catholic-like church I have even been into. They've kept the liturgy and sacrements but it's all done in a much more claim-free approach and environment. Remember is the ENGERGY that matters. NOT MASS. And our Lord will gradually guide each one of us into what this means. You don't need Frederick Smart. Go direct!! 119293!!