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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (239432)	3/18/2002 2:44:59 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Could you be a bigger hypocrite? Respectfully, DMA. your viewpoint is disgraceful: Cordially, Ray

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (239432)	3/18/2002 3:05:07 PM
From: RON BL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Oh the same media that has told us we were in a safe world and had no need for borders or military should be listened to. Oh the Chinese who destroyed Tibet and engage in a slave trade should be welcomed. Is that because they are Communist brothers to you and the end justifies the means ? Get it straight they all hate Western civilization and the only thing they respect is a force more powerful than themselves. I don't give a rat's ass what they think.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (239432)	3/18/2002 4:55:19 PM
From: bonnuss_in_austin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Excellent link...thx, Ray! Are you familiar with... ... this news source? I recently learned of it from one of my 'real journalist' buddies, who counts it as one of many online sources for keeping up with mainstream and otherwise ... maelstrom of info out there to sort through for all of us, seems. Here's a sample from the truthout site: truthout.com bia

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (239432)	3/18/2002 10:06:52 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Raymond, What you fail to understand is that I in fact do not have an "eye for an eye" mind-set, and do not even feel vengeful. I simply feel I was fired upon on 9/11/01, and the gun is still aimed at my head. The shot wounded me deeply, and my attacker is ruthless and intent upon killing me still. If I get the next shot off, and it is strong enough to kill my attacker, only then will I not die. To behave as a pacifist here does mean certain death for me, and in this real case as it stands, the western world becomming pacifist would allow its attackers to win the avowed jihad, meaning certain misery and much death, for the world which survives me, if I don't take this stand now. Intelligent readers know that even Al Queda fighters are often busy apologizing for their actions now-a-days, as I for one(if I don't say so myself)in fact once speculated would be the case here on this thread. Those willing to lead such a jihad are few, while the sometimes sympathetic masses(but notably vacillating as fortunes come and go), would just as soon leave us live, and most in fact have FAVORED some of our freedom(many outwardly- at risk of their lives if found out) for themselves all along. Your notion as to what it would take to win, specifically that half the worlds population would need to be exterminated, is thoroughly flawed. I have, as I say, no "eye for an eye" attitude. I do not wish to kill Muslims willy-nilly in equal numbers or worse, and I personally have attempted to help one(fairly called) "red-neck," understand that he shouldn't go back to Cincinnatti and attempt to destroy the business of the Arab Drive-thru owner who had been quite nice to him for years. He nearly became reactionary to the max, and he reported back that his wife and daughter set him straight in no uncertain terms as soon as they heard of his plans, and he is glad folks around him settled him down with reason. It didn't hurt when George Bush called people of his tendencies(worse, they acted on them following 911) Un-American. If we don't nip this in the bud, it may well, as you say, become the case that half the world population is exterminated, and in fact the half that LIVES may not contain Christians, Jews, Buddhists, agnostics, certainly not atheists, nor you name it. Violent domination and destruction of non-believers, is the well-known goal of the crazed enemy leaders, and should these leaders begin to win territory, the Muslim masses might well follow along. The enemy is as crazed for his version of "right," as was Hitler for his, IMO. But the Muslim masses do not fit this profile, and will not need be exterminated so that we may live. You may not always be impressed by our history as you view it, but we do deserve to live as, Freedom Works, Dan B