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To: Tony Viola who wrote (74871)	3/18/2002 4:14:37 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 275872

"Do the third parties (chipset folks) have Clawhammer chips in their hands for design and design verification purposes?" Dunno, but AMD has stated that they are sending out reference motherboards. This was during the initial demo during IDF. I suspect they have a ClawHammer in the motherboard, but that has not been explicitly stated. "If they have some early ones, how many steppings between now and release that cause them to EC their designs?" Good question. Obviously, we don't know. Just like we found out about the Hammer taping out when they did the demo. "Just when you thought you had the latest stepping, here came another one. The first servers were delayed a lot. Of course, that was Intel (schlock outfit)." I suspect that AMD will have less problem with this. It's not that Intel is a schlock outfit, but AMD, at least in the past, tends to do their designs at a higher level than Intel. It takes less engineering resources and it results in less errata, but it also generally results in a larger chip that draws more power. Besides, the tools weren't quite as good when the original Pentium Pro was introduced...

To: Tony Viola who wrote (74871)	3/19/2002 8:50:48 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Tony: before all the infrastructure is in place for the new Chammer so OEMs can actually build PCs, it's probably mid-2003, and it's Hello Prescott! It's just that when so many things are new at the same time, delays get compounded. Do the third parties (chipset folks) have Clawhammer chips in their hands for design and design verification purposes? Same question for the mobo people and Linux people. What are the odds that AMD is working closely with a top OEM or two (likely candidates would be Compaq and Fujitsu-Siemens, IMHO) for the introduction? I'm talking purely 32bit Windows here. I don't see a 64bit OS really ready for the start. Linux is bound to be the only one close, bit there will almost certainly be issues that crop up only once final hardware is available for testing. As for 64bit servers, I would say (and I think this is pretty much what you are saying) that 1H03 is what one can expect. 1Q03 would be quite an accomplishment. -fyo