To: Frederick Smart who wrote (1444 ) 3/19/2002 6:54:13 PM From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST Respond to of 2926 Fred, Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord . I'm trying to reason with you. But then you make a statement like this, "I ask you to look at all that is good, all that is loving, all that is full of mercy, all that is wonderful and uplifting and great and special and very soon you will be able to "see" and receive what goodness has come from Mohammed, his message and how this all fits wonderfully into our ONE Lord God in Heaven's perfect divine plan for the salvation and redemption of mankind." Somehow I don't think God thinks "burying your head in the sand" and ignoring evil is right....do you? Thats what your statement implies what we should do. That is not reasonable when thousands of innocent people got murdered by a Muslim group. Secondly, your number schemes and equations you illustrate, and the ones I saw on the website you pointed me too, I find strange and not of God. You might ask why I say this? Well, I'll tell you. As the Quran, God would not expose us to truth through an untranslatable book or one that could not be understood by all. Your number schemes are definitely comparable to this. What about people that incapable of doing math with prime numbers, or any of the mathamatical formulas, as you outline? You think God would make people have to understand mathematical equations to know his truth. Not the God I know. I can barely understand what you do with them. Fred, please try to stay on topic from now on, because thats what the author and readers of the thread want. If you want to talk about only good things, this is not the place to do it. Islam definitely doesn't teach of only good things, evidenced by its violent and disregard for human rights, especially women. Also, by doing so, you are doing something here not desired by others, and what I consider to be inconsiderate. And from what others write, I know they agree. In my humble opinion, you should take your preaching of non-Islamic topics on to a more appropriate thread, where there might be some who would want to read it. As for me, I have tried to understand you, and for the most part, can not. It is not fruitful what you discuss in Understanding Islam, and definitely not appropriate for this thread. I will have any further personal conversations with you via PM, or another thread. I think, as I, we should do so out of respect for others on this thread! God Bless, IGIT