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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11756)	3/19/2002 4:54:53 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Claiming On Mars............ >>>>If you want to sound off, enjoy, but you'll never find the answer to why mankind has gone so awry, nor will you find the answer for your own soul. Bottomline: He that sins becomes a slave to sin. Only Jesus Christ has the power and authority to cleanse and heal an individual from his sin. >>>> That's utterly and completely insane.... There are 100's of millions ...no maybe billions of instances down thru the ages , of examples of teachers and care-givers and poets and bards ....writers and story tellers , philosophers and artists that have inspired , taught by example , awoke the imaginations and consciences of the people , written absolutely wonderful and divinely inspirational works that enriched the fabric of our collective realities. And scientists & humanitarians that have risked it all ,to further our reach of understanding of this world and ourselves and grow beyond ourselves. Wake up from your little dream. peace.>> Mars: There you go "claiming" things that are good and true and light and love and energy as coming from mankind..... This is complete, total and utter insanity!! We cannot claim to be the source of even ONE little itty bitty slice of ANY of the energy, light and love that exists and flows through the whole entire universe. I know this kind of relative-conditional claim thinking plays well here in this world which mankind "claims" to have created and "claims" to have supported and "claims" to have nurse throughout the ages, etc. But go over the record and examine the subtle and simple truth of what is really going on around all of us. This belief that mankind or any ONE of us can claim to be a source of any of God's energy, light and Love is at the simple core root of all the problems in our world. You are "claiming" and assigning credit to this or that philosopher and sage and seer but if you were to ask any ONE of them point blank they'd all tell you the same simple truth - NOT ONE LITTLE ITTY BITTY PIECE OR GRAIN OF GOD'S LIGHT ENERGY AND LOVE CAN BE CLAIMED BY THEM...... The simple truth which is so hard for mankind to accept and swallow is that everything that is good and full of light and Love and free energy is directly from God. Now I know Him as our ONE Lord God in Heaven Jesus Christ and you may know him as some other ONE God. But Buddha and Bahaulla and Emanuel Swedenborg were not Ends or Sources as this ONE God. But they all freely received and shared this same ONE Divine source of energy, light and Love with the rest of this world. There's a very simple yet subtle understanding which differentiates this opening which we must somehow get through to see, accept and receive so we can become true unconditional sharers of more of our ONE Father's energy, light and Love. Any personal claim or credit for ourself and towards others for these truths only confuses and clouds the issue which is that there is only Source, ONE End, ONE God and no other. So let's let the light of our ONE God really shine!! Eliminate these claims and the energy will really explode!! 119293!!

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11756)	3/19/2002 5:15:16 PM
From: monu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

You said the following: "There are millions ...many many instances down thru the ages , of examples of teachers and care-givers and poets and bards ....writers and story tellers , philosophers and artists that have inspired , taught by example , awoke the imaginations and consciences of the people , written absolutely wonderful and divinely inspirational works that enriched the fabric of our collective realities. And scientists & humanitarians that have risked it all ,to further our reach of understanding of this world and ourselves and grow beyond ." I don't disagree. Still, that doesn't answer the fact that mankind is bent on destruction, calls wrong right and vice-versa and with all his talent, still doesn't know how to secure a marriage, love his neighbor and stop war. If you're saying that there are moral non-christians, I'd agree. We're talking two different things here. The fact that man CAN do some great and inspirational things, only attests to the awesomeness of God. The other side of the coin is that with all the good we're capable of doing, for the most we don't do it and only a "fallen" human being is capable of such continual screw-ups. Enter the present day human race. Better yet, look at a King Solomon who by his own admission had everything this world could offer and yet concluded it was all vanity. Read Ecclesiastes. Mankind in its present (sinful) state will never find what it's seeking. In fact, he doesn't even know what he's looking for! There is always that yearning but never that fulfilling of the "void". It only comes through having a personal relationship with Christ.