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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11778)	3/19/2002 9:56:59 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Mars... >>No Frederick , I am not trying to say anyone is God, cause I am sometimes a little devil . ;-)>> Well ok then. At least we acknowledge there's another spiritual equation and matrix out there. Hell is simply a name for this. And if you or others want to call this "other side" Pluto so beit. But the equation is materially different. And the quality and flow of energy and light is materially different. >>Listen , you /we/and everybody could have just as well taken the collected works, writings of Aristotle and decided by a council of the ruling powers that he was the true Son of "God" , and probably the world would have evolved more peacefully than we have seen it go.>> More Wizard of OZ??!! Come on Mars!! This is why we're sharing openly on threads like this. To break down these walls. To receive and share more light. To receive and pass around more energy. To pull the curtain, perhaps knock down some of these silly walls and let more of the universal light which wouldn't know a selfish claim if it happened to run into any one of us in a dark hallway. >>But that would require more people to think a little more wouldn't it ?>> You know when it comes to me believing in my ability "to think" or anyone's ability to think all I can think of are some pretty confusing things. For when we actually claim to think is the time when we seem to screw things up the most. And I know this may sound absolutely crazy and wacky, but this is what I believe. For all these thoughts do NOT originate with us!! We simply "receive" them. And since these thoughts DO NOT originate with us we cannot claim any bit of credit for having received them. Let's use the metaphor of a hose with water for example. Water corresponds with spirit and the hose corresponds with truth. So the hose is "the form or effect" which is corresponds with our body. And the water is the spirit which is "a cause" corresponds to our blood which carries the nutrients and waste to/from the cells, etc. And the body of water which when connected to a central pump acts like "the Source/End" from which everything flows. Now if I really was insane I'd grab the hose, claim it for myself and then point the water flowing through the hose at what I wanted to point at and if I didn't like the who/what/when/where and how/why of where the water was going and flowing I'd simply turn this water away and point it at something else and let the plants that may have been counting on the water I was directing to die, etc. Now if while all this was originally happening - while I was pointing this water and waterig these plants and gardens - I did not communicate with others that my real agenda was to serve me to the exclusion of others if need be, then the plans others would make expecting this and that water from me may be disappointed. No, when we place ourselves in the middle with any bit of claim we can only "play act" and fool ourselves into thinking and believing that we are the ones "creating" things and that such "creation" should go to "our" credit, etc. And this is the insanity of our world. >>was convenient for the church fathers to control the ideas of the greatest minds and philosophers of humanity for many centuries , carry on all the sacraments in language the common man did not understand ...all long enough to shore up this myth and fable of the "Son of God" and solidify their power .>> Give it up Mars. God's perfect divine providence has been operational throughout all eternity. And whether you want to believe this or not doesn't matter, for His providence is working through you right now for the fullfillment of His perfect plan of salvation and redemption of mankind. As for "power" the only true power comes from the Lord. His energy, light and Love is the source of all true power. Everything else is a fan dance - an illusion, play acting Wizards of Oz..... >>To say that : to be as a child , is to know heaven etc etc Is a profound and unique thing to say, and solves all mysteries of the universe ? Not hardly original.>> Why do you refuse to receive these things? You are always looking for some conditional hook to always claim something against something and someone in someway. do you have a secret pact with the Bora Bora cave torch society - ie. the folks that want to hide in caves and wave their torches in judgment and anger at anyone entering their caves?? All of these simple and pure truths are like children. They're so simple and innocent and sweet and all that. And we can look at them and smile, etc. But the real question becomes: CAN WE LIVE LIKE THESE CHILDREN?? Can we see like them? Can we have fun and experience life the way they do? . >>What were they so afraid of ? >> Forget about the Bora Bora cave-torch societies!! That's all this Old World distrust, Wizard of Oz claim, blame, shame and control crap. EXIT these castles. They're not going to do do anything for you. For all they can do is claim, blame, shame and take the energy, light and Love from others. There's NO real power whatsoever in any of mankind's models. They simply DO NOT COMPUTE!! Mankind is opposed to the flow of this FREE energy. Mankind is opposed to God. But there is a God or God's which mankind does worship and it's these conditional claim-define control God's which enslave and rule and stipulate and restrict the flow of our Lord's universal energy, light and Love. Mars, I believe you already know all this. And I know where you are coming from as far as all this "religious crap" is concerned. But the truth rests in FREEDOM. Freedom from claims. Freedom from limits. Freedom from fear. Freedom from conditions. And the truth is it's own reward. For when the truth is received freely and openly is creates its own reward for no sooner do we receive it then we seek to openly share it with others. So we need fewer and fewer claims. We need more rivers and fewer dams. We need more sunlight and fewer conditionally rotating spotlights. 119293!!