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To: IngotWeTrust who wrote (83513)	3/20/2002 9:38:01 AM
From: c.hinton	Respond to of 116759

in the most general terms,patriotism and truth do not have much to do with one another.In fact the idea of " my country right or wrong" supports the negation of truth and reason for the bennefit of national interests.

To: IngotWeTrust who wrote (83513)	3/20/2002 9:45:17 AM
From: Zardoz	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116759

I find Doug and Bill both lacking any real knowledge of markets.. I don't hate them, I just hate the grand standing that both seem to think they can take. I missed the C-span crap, and sure it would be crap anyways. The rumours that they spread about derivatives is , well to say the least insulting to those who know that most of the positions are just double spreads, butterflies, or hedging. Not all things need go up if a derivative WAS to die a cruel death. But like their lame advisors they only assume that Enron, or anyone else for that matter MUST always be short the metal. It's a common fallicy amonst those that don't understand markets. Shit, I'm had options on ABX placed at different times and expirations in the past that Guarntee me 0% risk and only profit as long as the stock shows a 5% volaitily. And man if I had the money like the Enron had, I could make those equities hit both the high end and low end, while taking out the middle ground as my own. And all without ever shorting a stock. And that's what's been going on for YEARS now. It's NEVER been about where gold is, or what it's value is... it'a all about RANGES. I could never kiss the asses of the like of Chris Powell or that Ven____ guy who print constant mis-information and spout it as being truth. THEY LIE and Decieve..

To: IngotWeTrust who wrote (83513)	3/20/2002 10:54:24 AM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116759

So, bill is courting the chinese political machinery/our sworn enemy with great lipsmacking gusto ========================= Both ex-Prez Slick Billy and now Dubya have cozied up to those slitty-eyed "sworn enemies". Remember Slick gave Jiang a RED CARPET welcome with much fanfare? Imagine! Your much admired ex-prez thought fit to kiss Jiang's ass with lip-smacking gusto!!! Slick had shown a good example, right? So what's wrong with your beloved "Smurphy" cozying up to them, too? Methinks it's just your fear. Even if, in the end, Murphy's efforts to promote GATA's findings come to nothing in China, the Chinese would still benefit greatly. Because the Chinese are now beginning to learn American English with gusto!!! From my Canadian and American friends who are now teaching English in China, I am told the desire to learn American English is simply "great", "fantastic", "unbelievable", "unprecedented", etc., etc. So much so that any unemployed American with a college education will be welcomed with open arms to teach American English there. But, alas! there is one negative for you! After they are able to communicate well in English and begin to love Americans and things American, you will have no more chinks to bash.