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To: Srexley who wrote (240333)	3/20/2002 6:50:03 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Actually the Palestinians sold out and left Israel so the neighboring Arab countries could wipe the Jews out. Didn't happen and the Palestinians moved back wanting what they had sold.

To: Srexley who wrote (240333)	3/20/2002 7:16:35 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Srexley, Re: 1) The U.N. created Isreal after WW2 Your understanding here needs to be tempered with more reading of history. Here's a tip of the iceberg of the behind the scenes British diplomatic manuveuring that came well before Israel was established in 1948: <Snip> Before Israel: Snares of colonialism Truth be told, bin Laden cites as grievances events that predate the rise of the US as a Middle East player. He begins with Western colonialism. In his chilling videotaped message made public after the beginning of the US bombing campaign in Afghanistan, he said that the Islamic world "has been tasting this humiliation and ... degradation for more than 80 years." Bin Laden is referring to the period after World War I, when victors Britain and France were carving up the remains of the losing Ottoman Empire to suit themselves. With Britain's then-colonial secretary Winston Churchill playing a leading role, the allies created Kuwait, Jordan, Iraq, and other new states with arbitrary lines on the map. They imposed rulers with few legitimate ties to the ruled. The exercise was carried out against the backdrop of the Balfour Declaration, the 1917 statement of British foreign secretary Alfred Balfour pledging British support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. At the time, Western leaders failed to consider that this promise might set up a clash between Zionist and Palestinian Arab nationalism. The result was a belt of instability and suppressed political aspirations that stretched from Constantinople to the Indian Ocean. This turmoil is far from forgotten; it is instead living history, the cause of innumerable modern fissures between Arabs, Israel, and the West. Where was the US while this was going on? Turning inward. "The US was basically neutral. It did not appear that the US had any great stake in Middle East affairs," says David Fromkin, a Boston University professor whose history of the region in that period is fittingly titled "A Peace to End All Peace." --More on the Balfour Declaration: patriarchywebsite.com ________________________________________________________ 2) Egypt attacked Isreal in 1967 or so. Again, incorrect, the provocation was an allied effort by Egypt, Syria and Jordan and Iraq to close the Israeli border. Israel attacked first. Not as you state it. The Arab states were engaged in an aggressive blockade, yes, but they did not attack Israeli territory or troops. Israel’s decision to wait was taken despite the fact that it was well aware that the main threat had now become the Egyptian deployment in the Sinai and not the closing of the straits. When it became clear later that the political demarches had failed, the Government, on June 4 gave approval to the Israel Defense Forces to undertake military offensive to eliminate the threat to Israel’s existence. Source: idf.il __________________________________________________________ 3) Isreal took some land to prevent further attacks. Wrong again, the purpose of taking the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and the Golan Heights served multiple purposes. Not only would it push the Israeli defensive positions farther from the heart of Israel, it would also provide a blow-off valve for additional immigrants from the Diaspora, who were cynically located in provocative "settlements" inside the territory of the Paletinian Arabs. It was an act of pure aggressive colonialism and chutzpah. ________________________________________________________ 4) Palestine got the short end of the stick. Well, one out of four ain't bad... <g> Correct. -Ray