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To: Solon who wrote (3816)	3/20/2002 7:44:16 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

I do know that approximately 25% of women murder victims are killed by a spouse or boyfriend, and 20-30% of the time the result of an argument; often drugs are involved. Why I should presume that these spouses typically had a "long record of criminal violations" Usually there is a long record of domestic abuse before the murder in such cases. Of course if the question still remains guilt or innocence. While I think such people should be punished the death penalty is a bit to harsh for non-fatal assault and battery IMO. Tim

To: Solon who wrote (3816)	3/21/2002 7:07:21 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

""A death that is quick and painless resolves all issues for the heinous criminal" It also resolves all issues for the innocent person--which, in case you had forgotten, was my point. I did not forget that this was your point. In fact you seem to have over looked??? my agreement with this point. I made it quite clear that this is THE reason I am against the death penalty. It appears that you are against the death penalty as a matter of conscience and are using the inneffective justice system to support your arguement. I have absolutely no disagreement with you that inconclusive cases should be appealed as far as there is an avenue to do so and that since we will likely never have a perfect way to determine guilt or innocence, the death penalty should be abolished. The entanglement and question that is not dealt with effectively in your position is what resolution do you see for the other 99+% of heinous criminals who's cases have been concluded. I suspect that you don't like the idea of the death penalty for any of them, not because they may be innocent but because you just dont like the idea. I accept and support the idea of removing the death penalty from the system. You mention 3565 of which a few may be innocent. There are many times that amount who have committed heinous crimes and given long term sentences rather than the death penalty. How would you determine that a fair and just resolution to the crimes of these people has been achieved? I don't represent anyone but myself when I say this but I would rather receive the death penalty than have long term incarceration. I consider life a worthy endeavor but realize that when avenues to living a purposeful life are severed without the possibility for resolution with my fellow beings, I do not see the point of continuing and consider such an existence one of torment. I understand that the correctional intent of prison is to make all things right with society. I consider it cruel and unusual punishment to keep someone in a condition of continual torment with no possibility for resolution.