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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (2628)3/21/2002 12:46:57 AM
From: EL KABONG!!!  Respond to of 12465
 
<LOL>

Anyone stupid enough to speculate in anything where those two are involved deserves to lose their money. It's not like the documentation of past performances isn't out there somewhere to be easily found... I mean, even that pugilist from Chicago recognizes that pair for what they're worth...

KJC



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (2628)3/26/2002 10:51:03 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465
 
Re: 3/26/02 - [OMDA] OMDA counsel accuses Raging Bull posters of "spreading libelous statements"

Search Started at 3/26/2002 10:39:54 AM
By: omdaesq
26 Mar 2002, 12:24 AM EST
Msg. 129238 of 129308

Pertinent Information

This message is issued to those of you who may have questions about the viability and validity of Original Media, Inc. (OMDA). Please be advised that OMDA is currently being represented by counsel to resolve any and all issues pertaining to the Company's registration and status with the State of Delaware. As previous posts indicated, the Company was in default for failing to keep current with filing fees and franchise fees with the State of Delaware. However, this matter will be resolved shortly as this office has been, and continues to be in contact with Delaware's Secretary of State to ensure proper registration and filing of corporate documents.

On a related note, there is currently a rumour circulating that OMDA is filing for bankruptcy. This rumour is entirely false, and those responsible for spreading such mis-truths will be held accountable. In addition, several members of this Bulletin Board have been spreading libelous statements with the knowledge of its falsity and with the intent to cause the Company and it's Officers and Directors harm. Rest assured that those responsible will be held accountable.

When reviewing the negative posts made against the Company, please keep in mind that there are people out there who do not share the same desire to see the Company prosper. There are individuals and institutions who stand to make a great deal of money with the decline of the Company's stock price. Ask yourself the question "Why would someone spend such a great deal of time trashing a Company in which they supposedly have money invested?" Would you yourself post negative comments about a company that you had your hard earned cash invested in? Do not believe everything you read.

As the situation progresses, I will provide additional information regarding the Company and the Company's activities. Please be advised that information gathered here is not a substitute for due diligence performed on the part of the potential investor. Be on the lookout for positive press releases regarding the Company and the Company's current Oil Exploration activities.

DISCLAIMER: THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN OFFER OF SOLICITATION TO BUY, SELL OR HOLD THE COMPANY'S SECURITIES. ALL MATTERS PRESENTED ABOVE ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU RESEARCH THE COMPANY BEFORE MAKING A DECISION AS TO YOUR POSITION WITH THE COMPANY'S SECURITIES.

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- No Position)

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: janice456 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 12:40 AM EST
Msg. 129239 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

If you're really OMDA's counsel, I think you'd do well to offer full identification. You know: your name, name of your law firm, that stuff.

Otherwise, you'll look no better than the anonymous "bashers" you say you despise.

Don't bother to thank me.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: mack
26 Mar 2002, 12:41 AM EST
Msg. 129240 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

hey omdaesgIDIOT.
How about addressing the fact that they have yet to show that they can generate ANY revenue. Doing business means at least ATTEMPTING to make money, not just spend time fighting rbull people
As far as someone holding shares bought with their hard earned money let me just say, you shouldn't be concerned about those you refer to that just want to see the company disappear. How about those that have been told promise after promise about company developments just to see NOTHING come to fruition to where it generates revenue and shareholder value but rather see their holdings drop in value nearly 99%. Are you a complete idiot? People get screwed on their investment are not going to sit here and post how much they love you but how upset they are at the failure to perform. Of course, there are some brainless wonders that continue to say nonsense like warre, sharon, tapemach, etc. Nothing personal, but they have no ability to think clearly to follow such a failure.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: winder57
26 Mar 2002, 12:48 AM EST
Msg. 129243 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

Bankruptcy what bankruptcy? Why are you suggesting this as a possibility?

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: janice456 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 02:45 AM EST
Msg. 129244 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129240 by mack.)

Apparently you don't Get It. The person to whom you're responding represents himself as OMDA's attorney.

Anonymously. Weird.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: rangerray
26 Mar 2002, 04:07 AM EST
Msg. 129246 of 129308

Busy BOYLAND

DATE: 03/28/02 DEPT: 2J
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. CASE #: INC017676 TIME: 8:30
CATEGORY: Defamation
CASE NAME: ORIGINAL MEDIA VS RA
HEARING: Hearing on OSC re why unserved parties should not be dismis
on Complaint of ORIGINAL MEDIA INC.

PARTIES: FIRMS/ATTORNEY'S
Plaintiff: ORIGINAL MEDIA INC WILLIAM E BOYLAND
PROFIT PUBLICATIONS INC WILLIAM E BOYLAND
JAYNE NEWELL-LANZA WILLIAM E BOYLAND

Defendant: TAJAR
JOHN RAPP
REAL DEAL
SULA

2. CASE #: INC017676 TIME: 8:30
CATEGORY: Defamation
CASE NAME: ORIGINAL MEDIA VS RA
HEARING: STATUS CONFERENCE

PARTIES: FIRMS/ATTORNEY'S
Plaintiff: ORIGINAL MEDIA INC WILLIAM E BOYLAND
PROFIT PUBLICATIONS INC WILLIAM E BOYLAND
JAYNE NEWELL-LANZA WILLIAM E BOYLAND

Defendant: TAJAR
JOHN RAPP
REAL DEAL
SULA

_____________________________________________________________

DATE: 04/10/02 DEPT: 2J
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5. CASE #: INC025280 TIME: 8:30
CATEGORY: Defamation
CASE NAME: KEYFAUVER VS HALE
HEARING: STATUS CONFERENCE

PARTIES: FIRMS/ATTORNEY'S
Plaintiff: CONNIE KEYFAUVER MATTHEW T WARD

Defendant: SUE SALLIE HALE DEAN E DAGGETT
REBECCA RAINSFORD WILLIAM E BOYLAND
_____________________________________________________________

DATE: 04/11/02 DEPT: 2F
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. CASE #: INC018074 TIME: 8:30
CATEGORY: Fraud
CASE NAME: ORIGINAL MEDIA VS LI
HEARING: STATUS CONFERENCE

PARTIES: FIRMS/ATTORNEY'S
Plaintiff: ORIGINAL MEDIA INC WILLIAM E BOYLAND
JAYNE NEWELL-LANZA WILLIAM E BOYLAND

Defendant: CHARLES LILE CHRISTOPHER DE SALVA
MARVIN BRYAN
JIM COOK
DEB NYBERG
JIM YOUNG
SHARON HUDSON

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- No Position; ST Rating- Strong Sell; LT Rating- Strong Sell)

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: latluck $$$$
26 Mar 2002, 04:10 AM EST
Msg. 129247 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

OMDAESQ

Still waiting to hear the OS to date. I don't want to throw a wrench in things but you can not sell shares and then register them, it has to be done the other way around.

Why would someone who invested hard earned money bad mouth the stock? Well it is down over %80 from the time I bought, plus there are an additional 9.5 billion shares ready for sale, or is it protection? I was told numerous times that there would be no further dilution.

If the proper documentation was filed on time, why don't you put copies of all those amendments on OMDA website. You do have copies right? You did state that these documents were filed but not accepted correct? We'll that would be a good faith way to start and show that the company did at least try to follow the requirments of the DE Coporate law.

Dave

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: latluck $$$$
26 Mar 2002, 04:22 AM EST
Msg. 129248 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129247 by latluck.)

Also OMDAESQ,

Why don't you explain to us shareholders how in the audited financials on OMDA's homepage before void status in DE it states some 38 million preferred shares are authorized. Over 2 million preferred were issued to related parties in 2000 alone well above the number legally authorized by the State of DE. Remember no BS right?

Dave

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 07:54 AM EST
Msg. 129252 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

OMDAESQ, put a name to your post. But I already know who you are. Nice threat. But you wont get 3 feet inside a court room with any law suit on behalf of OMDA

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 07:56 AM EST
Msg. 129254 of 129308

OMDAESQ, YOu made your first legal mistake. You failed to include a regulation 17 B disclosure

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:01 AM EST
Msg. 129255 of 129308

OMDAESQ, What are you doing for OMDA? I checked with DE yesterday and confirmed they are still VOID, which means all these shares being traded are VOID. You want to tell us what law school you went to? You a member of the cracker Jack Bar?

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: goseeu $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:01 AM EST
Msg. 129256 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129247 by latluck.)

Don't you find it strange that someone inferring that they are a Lawyer representing a Company posts anonymously on a Chat Board like RB after Midnight, eh???

Maybe we have a whole new Law Firm representation paradigm evolving, huh? Could be cheaper rates from midnight to 8 A.M., like the telephone calling rates. Neat concept!

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:05 AM EST
Msg. 129259 of 129308

OMDAESQ looks like I have to file yet another complaint with the Bar concerning a scum bag OMDA lawyer. YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH ME? You better think twice. And tell Joe to F OFF from me LMMFAO

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:20 AM EST
Msg. 129260 of 129308

OMDAESQ as you can see, no one here is afraid of your threats

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:22 AM EST
Msg. 129261 of 129308

OMDA ESQ, Lets get this over with. Post your name and address and phone number. Are you representing Joseph A Lanza as well? Lets just start process now. I am assuming you have advised yur clients against ####### off the shareholders right now. have you not? Have you also advised them of their personal exposure in all this?

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:23 AM EST
Msg. 129262 of 129308

OMDA ESQ comon back here. File suit now so everyone can laugh at your legal prowess.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: John_Rapp $$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:43 AM EST
Msg. 129264 of 129308

OMDAESQ, If you really are a new attorney who has the unenviable task of trying to unwind this mess in front of a jury, you have my pity.

However, I do believe, if that is the case, you have just disqualified and implicated YOURSELF in the OMDA operation!!!

You post a disclaimer yet you tell the board to "be on the lookout for "positive" news". Nothing could be more insider hype than that!!! How do you know and why that suggestion by the attorney???

I think you have exposed yourself.

Rapp

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: debnyberg $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 08:58 AM EST
Msg. 129268 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

You wrote: "As previous posts indicated, the Company was in default for failing to keep current with filing fees and franchise fees with the State of Delaware."

As an OMDA shareholder, this concerns me. This is first and foremost important to a public company that failing to keep current with filing fees and franchise fees with the State of Delaware be important! It is only through the research of other shareholders that we even are aware of this situation. Management failed to disclose this information to us voluntarily.

You also further wrote: "On a related note, there is currently a rumour circulating that OMDA is filing for bankruptcy. This rumour is entirely false, and those responsible for spreading such mis-truths will be held accountable. In addition, several members of this Bulletin Board have been spreading libelous statements with the knowledge of its falsity and with the intent to cause the Company and it's Officers and Directors harm. Rest assured that those responsible will be held accountable."

I fail to understand the addition of this statement in the same post that tells us the Company was in fact, in default with the State of Delaware, after this fact was disclosed right here on the message board by a shareholder and NOT MANAGEMENT! I read this message board frequently and I have not read any rumors of bankruptcy. What post(s) are you referring to?

If your post, here, is supposed to make the shareholders feel secure, I think you have missed the target...at least with me. My broker account statement says the shares I owe have no value. That is the bottom line with me.

If you are the attorney, representing the Company, thank you very much for the professional manner in which you first introduced yourself to the shareholders who believed in the Company enough to invest our personal money in a company who has been in default with its incorporating State. Rest assured, we shareholders now know where "we" stand with the Company. I hope your retainer fee is paid in advance.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: BostonWrangler $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 09:04 AM EST
Msg. 129269 of 129308

TO ALL OMDA SHAREHOLDERS:

Original Media cannot sell ten billion unauthorized shares over a period of years because of failing to file any amendments to its articles of incorporation with the State of Delaware, then make that crime go away by paying long-past-due franchise taxes now and filing an amendment now. All unauthorized shares sold illegally are still unauthorized and illegal. Probably all the shares you bought as an investor are unauthorized and worthless for that reason. This is a classic justification for the filing of a shareholders' class-action lawsuit against the officers, board of directors, directors, and management of Original Media as individuals. Because of the void status of the corporation, these individuals are not protected by any corporate shield. Their personal assets are exposed.

I might add that if "omdaesq" is an attorney, we seem to have evidence that the kind of attorneys the Lanzas hire do their best work when they post anonymously on an investment message board in the middle of the night.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: machinedr
26 Mar 2002, 09:22 AM EST
Msg. 129272 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

OMDAESQ-You did not identify yourself. That alone makes your post suspect. You could be anyone for all we know.

How about it, identify yourself.

Now, if you are in fact OMDA's legal counsel, how did they default on their corporate charter?

Also, as OMDA's legal counsel, are you qualified to comment on the company's viability? That should be left to the CFO.

JY

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Hold; LT Rating- Hold)

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 09:23 AM EST
Msg. 129273 of 129308

How can a void company go bankrupt? What would be the point? they dont legally exist so no bankruptcy is possible

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 09:24 AM EST
Msg. 129274 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129272 by machinedr.)

Machine if this person is who I think it is and that is confirmed. the california Bar will be notified of his transgressions

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: kaleb798
26 Mar 2002, 09:25 AM EST
Msg. 129275 of 129308

OMDA

Things are looking good. Hopefully this Corsicana well will come through, maybe 100b/day. That would be nice. It is my understanding that the fracking(?) job is supposed to take place as early as Wednesday. However, the weather in these parts has not been very good. We have had lots of rain and very cold weather.

I do not know who posted last night under OMDAesq but it certainly seemed legit. I do not know. In speaking with OMDA over a week ago, there was an attorney in the room who introducted himself to me. I cannot recall his name. I believe he was from Seattle and he was hired to deal with those who are guilty of libel, etc. Apparently he has some exp. in this field.

As to why and when he posted, I don't think it matters. If he would have posted during normal business hours the bashers and part-time investigators here would have complained - "if he is truly OMDA's attorney, why is he wasting time posting when he should be working?" On it goes!

I am confident that any of the problems in DE will be cleared up very soon. Then the board will switch back to some other area.

I did read Boston's post about the class actin law suit - I have heard that in the past. If fact, I believe it was Sharon that first mentioned that to me. If there is so much overwhelming evidence of OMDA's evil, illegal activities then why hasn't this happened already?

Time will tell; however, one thing I do know OMDA continues to work and produce OIL

Good Day.
Kaleb..

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: paradox82 $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 09:30 AM EST
Msg. 129276 of 129308
(This msg. is a reply to 129275 by kaleb798.)

Kaleb this cant be cleared up. what part of 100's of millions of illegal shares dont you understand?

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: meteormann $
26 Mar 2002, 09:53 AM EST
Msg. 129289 of 129308

Looks like some of you people may have some big problems ahead of you, paradox,goseeu,kenco and others.
Several members of this Bulletin Board have been spreading libelous statements with the knowledge of its falsity and with the intent to cause the Company and it's Officers and Directors harm. Rest assured that those responsible will be held accountable. The attorney should have no problem finding out who you people are!

JUST A MATTER OF TIME PEOPLE!

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: HPOBET $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 10:15 AM EST
Msg. 129296 of 129324
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

"Why would someone spend such a great deal of time trashing a Company in which they supposedly have money invested?"

I wonder has it occurred to you that when people get ripped off they get real ticked off? They decide that they want to see justice done and they hound the perpetrators into the light where they can get stepped on like the disgusting bugs they are thought to be?

Or do you have some sinister conspiracy theory to explain Joe Lanza's trail in the public record?

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: HPOBET $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 10:21 AM EST
Msg. 129302 of 129324
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

" Be on the lookout for positive press releases regarding the Company and the Company's current Oil Exploration activities. "

Are you sure you are an attorney? I think that's a very un-lawyerly thing to be saying promoting the business of your client. Why would you create exposure like that for yourself?

Or are you merely Joe Lanza pretending to be an attorney?

"Do not believe everything you read. "
This may be the best bit of advice you've given.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: HPOBET $$$$$
26 Mar 2002, 10:39 AM EST
Msg. 129310 of 129324
(This msg. is a reply to 129238 by omdaesq.)

" Please be advised that OMDA is currently being represented by counsel ..."

Note that the poster "OMDAesq" does not say in his post that he is in fact counsel for OMDA. Heaven knows that OMDA must have counsel. That's hardly a news flash.

"However, this matter will be resolved shortly as this office has been, and continues to be in contact with Delaware's Secretary of State to ensure proper registration and filing of corporate documents. "

I suppose that this "office" could be the "home office" and possibly means then it is Joe Lanza doing a careful tap dance not saying he is an attorney but leaving the impression that he is. Bluster by the wounded bull to strike fear in the wolves circling on the carcass. If so Joe I don't think anyone is buying your act any more. It's looking like chow time. The question is will chow be at Nellis this time or somewhere else a little less hospitable?

ragingbull.lycos.com

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (2628)4/14/2002 12:38:18 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Respond to of 12465
 
Re: 4/13/02 - [OMDA] The sad end to an honest CFO

By: rider10 $$$$$
13 Apr 2002, 07:58 PM EDT Msg. 131661 of 131687

Mr. Lile is dead. Mr. Wells posted a message the first of the week saying he'd heard this. It was addressed to me. He wanted to know if I could tell him if it was true. I suppose he asked that because I live in the area and used to work with Mr. Lile at OMDA. I didn't answer that message because I hadn't heard anything except that Mr. Lile has been sick for a long time, as most people know.

Well, today (Saturday) an obituary was published in our local newspaper, The Desert Sun. Mr. Lile was 62 and leaves a widow, four children, and seven grandchildren. His mother is still alive too. The obituary said he had served in the U.S. Air Force and had been an accountant for 25 years. A memorial service will be held on April 21st.

Here's the part that makes me very angry. The obituary says Mr. Lile died on April 7th. That was last Sunday. How did Mr. Wells know so soon? After all, he lives in a rented room in Houston. I suppose Mrs. Lanza told him, since he gets his information from her to post all the time.

And how did Mrs. Lanza know before anybody else in the Palm Springs area? The only logical explanation to me is that Mr. and Mrs. Lanza were having Mr. Lile followed. Disgusting.

So I guess the Lanzas and Mr. Wells will be celebrating that they got away without paying the four months' back salary the judge said they owed, and they can keep talking about their make-believe "Lile gang" forever. Mr. Lile won't be around to fight back.

At least the SEC attorney cleared Mr. Lile's name for poster latluck. He told him there was no investigation of Mr. Lile or any Lile gang.

But the Lanzas certainly did their best to ruin his reputation, bankrupt him, and drive him to his grave. All because he was an honest Chief Financial Officer.

They must be very proud.

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: justcruising $$$$
13 Apr 2002, 11:24 PM EDT Msg. 131682 of 131687

Mr. Lile came to Sharon Hudsons side after the shareholders meeting in 2001 as she was frightened to walk to the car by herself after Joe Lanzas threatening demeanor. God bless him.

Little else I know about him, except he conducted himself as an honest man and, I believe, with good principals.

My regards to his family.

justcruising

ragingbull.lycos.com

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By: TraderWong $$$$$
13 Apr 2002, 11:42 PM EDT Msg. 131685 of 131687

It was Cliff Casey who was arrested and indicted for embezzlement. Casey is the attorney who is a close friend of the Lanzas and the former president of their World Internet Technologies (WORI).

Charles Lile was never arrested or indicted. The bogus embezzlement suit the Lanzas filed against him was their response to his own suit against OMDA for those four months of unpaid wages.

Here in New York Phil Sirlin (former OMDA CEO) has been very eloquent in defending his friend Mr. Lile. In fact, unknown to the Lanzas, when he flew to Palm Springs to give the deposition they insisted on and which they bragged would destroy Mr. Lile, Phil also visited Chuck Lile at his home.

May he rest in peace.

Trader

ragingbull.lycos.com