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To: Lane3 who wrote (3901)	3/21/2002 8:01:35 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 21057

I don't believe in God in the Biblical sense, but I find it impossible to believe that ever more complex, intricate, and purposeful biological processes evolved absolutely at random. That's akin to believing, in my view, that if the sands of the Sahara blew for a billion years, they could eventually assemble themselves into a Rolls Royce. Wings: how do you explain the evolution of wings solely as the result of the process of natural selection? How many millions of failures would have to take place to produce the single first success? And how could all of those failures continue to press toward success without any of the positive feedback of success, generation after generation? There's no such thing as "sort of" flying. You either have wings that work or you don't. There has to be an intentionality of some kind that we don't understand, in my view.

To: Lane3 who wrote (3901)	3/21/2002 10:43:53 AM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Okay, I'll remove the capital. I think god-belief is exactly on a par, rationally, with Jove-belief, gremlin-belief and fairy-belief. I despise no one for holding any of those beliefs. If those who believe agnosticism is more rational than atheism will state that they are agnostic about the existence of Jove, gremlins and fairies, the non-existence of which are equally not provable, I will join them in happy (in fact merry) agnosticism, for purposes of discussion with them here. And will go further. If you agree that the reason you're an agnostic (I don't think you're the only one, though; I have the impression there are others) is because there may be a Creator and it may be a Gremlin, I'll be in your camp with a smile on my face!