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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (240744)	3/21/2002 9:02:33 PM
From: George Coyne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Tell that to 130,000 steelworkers. To their face. Their reaction might make you think twice about your twinkie economic analysis. Ooooh, that sounds suspiciously like a union reaction. Actually, the steelworkers would probably not be particularly upset that you are being silly.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (240744)	3/21/2002 9:46:40 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Ray, RE: "Tell that to 130,000 steelworkers. To their face. Their reaction might make you think twice about your twinkie economic analysis." Their reaction is predictable and would be as you imagine, no doubt in my mind. War issues aside, that won't change the overall harm done to us all, as you attempt to maintain the status quo by legislating otherwise evolving industries out of the poor house, and into perpetual existence(you hope, I gather) without viable competition. RE: "...perfectly fine companies that were ruined by rapacious corporate raiders. They were the part of the non-populace you so conveniently disregard in your sophomoric rantings about the joys of a "free market". I stated that I factored ALL of the populace in, conveniently disregarding noone. Having said so already in reply to you, you are now arguing dishonestly, pretending(if unwittingly) a base I covered hasn't been covered. RE: "You really ought to think a little deeper about the actual human impact of your silly little theories, which conveniently all seem to lead to the same place, wealth accumulation by the elites at the expense of the other 98% percent of the non-population." My concern is for "the other 98%" indeed, no matter how you look at that. It is you who have only considered "140,000" steel workers, in fact. Me, I've got a whole country to worry about, and I mean everyone in it. I hope you'll catch up as, Freedom Works, Dan B

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (240744)	3/21/2002 10:58:52 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

You remind me of a case I know about locally. A small company had union labor and they landscaped. Under union rules there was a laborer who dug material out of the wagon and filled wheelbarrows and another that emptied the wheelbarrow on the landscape. (there were more but these illustrate the point). There was a vote which eliminated the union (for a raise) as this is a "right to work" state and so essentially both workers filled the wheelbarrow and dumped it thereby increasing productivity. The trouble is they came down with injuries since there wasn't a moment's rest as there used to be. The lawsuits eventually led to the company's demise. TP