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To: gamesmistress who wrote (22018)	3/23/2002 10:47:11 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

First They Came for the Jews First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. Pastor Martin Niemöller Actually, first they came for the Communists and the Socialists, and nobody did anything because they were glad to get rid of the Communists and the Socialists. And then they came for some of the Jews, but nobody did anything because they were glad to get rid of the Jews. Then they came for the trade unionists and nobody did anything because they saw what happened to the Communists and the Socialists and the first Jews, most of whom were executed. And incrementally, a little worse and a little worse. Retarded children and mentally ill people in insane asylums. Gypsies. Homeless bums. Career felons. Drug addicts. Alcoholics. Nobody did anything because they didn't care what happened to the dregs of society. Weak people without advocates. Most of the Jews who were badly treated prior to 1936 were members of opposition parties or public figures. After the 1936 Olympics, aggression against the Jews accelerated. Kristallnacht was precipitated when, on November 7, 1938, a 17 year old Polish Jew named Herschel Grynszpan shot a minor Nazi official, Ernst vom Rath in the German Embassy in Paris. This occurred the day before the annual Nazi rally in Munich to celebrate the November 8-9, 1923 Beer Hall Putsch. Lots of drunken, happy Nazis happy for an excuse to smash things. No doubt they were elated at getting the Sudentenland without a fight, but since the last get-together, they'd also taken Austria (March 12, 1938) without much of a fight. By that time, who was able to stand up to the Nazis? You say France? France was invaded on May 10, 1940, and surrendered on June 22. If France and Great Britain thought they could stop Hitler from taking Czechoslovakia, surely they would not have conceded the Sudenland. You don't make deals when you are sure you will win. I don't blame anyone but the Germans for not stopping Hitler. If Hitler had not invaded Russia, he most likely would have beat us. Only the insanity of fighting a two front war did him in, IMO. Well, this is just my opinion. Chamberlain has a black eye in history, so why not blame everything on him? But I think you're making him into a scapegoat. I think it's more interesting to speculate what would have happened if more Jews had resisted like the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto. Which explains, of course, how militant the Israelis are now. Jews were scholars, not fighters. They had to learn how to fight.