To: lorne who wrote (14348 ) 3/24/2002 12:33:51 AM From: haqihana Respond to of 27746 lorne, I was responding to a rather scathing post that went beyond the pale, IMO. Any over cutting of lumber is rape as far as I am concerned, regardless of what nation does it, and I agree that the US loggers are culpable in that regard. In one, or two, of my recent posts, I mentioned the need to cut back on lumber consumption, and explained that it is easily possible. In Florida, a large proportion of housing is built with concrete cinder blocks, aluminum studs, and marble window sills. A combination of these products improves insulation, lowers utilities, and are termite proof. I believe that all nations, including both the US and Canada, should reduce the use of lumber. I don't care how carefully forestry is managed, it takes from years to decades for a tree to reach decent lumber size. When I spoke of malcontents, I was not referring to the 9/11 terrorists. The US did a bang up job of screwing up on security on that one. I could go into the government snafus that allowed such inefficient personnel to be hired, and kept on the job, but some of those politicians have been beat upon so much, it would be like kicking a dead horse, but although it happened while Bush was President, evidence has, and will, show that they were hired before he took office. In the past, some friendly, Muslim, folks have been stopped at the border of our two countries, who were trying to smuggle explosives into the US. As I recall it happened both in Washington, and New York. I used that as a stinger on the poster that was extremely insulting, and wrote in a derisive manner. A new example of the lack of security in the US, has come to light. Atta, and another of the terrorist that participated in 9/11 went to the emergency room in a hospital in Orlando in June 2001, and received antibiotics for skin sores that were diagnosed as anthrax. Nobody seemed to get a clue that something may have been amiss. When someone brought that up the other day, someone said, now we know why they were looking at crop dusters. Duuuuh!