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Strategies & Market Trends : Fascist Oligarchs Attack Cute Cuddly Canadians -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: marcos who wrote (365)3/23/2002 5:46:49 PM
From: Crocodile  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1293
 
I agree....teevee stated that well. Smells strongly of "tax grab" to me. There are other aspects of this whole thing that rub me the wrong way... many in fact. I wonder where this will lead to... But you're right. This is not an issue between citizens, but one of politics with a power struggle and desire for control forming the subtext.



To: marcos who wrote (365)3/23/2002 5:48:29 PM
From: marcos  Respond to of 1293
 
Around 1815 at the end of the french wars, british landowners controlled parliament by virtue of being the only people permitted to vote ... the price of corn had risen greatly as always during wartime ['corn' means not maize but 'wheat and barley' to the english and 'oats and barley' to the scots] ... a good deal of agricultural land had changed hands at exorbitant prices in those years, and now carried heavy mortgages with its speculative 'value'

So the landowners voted themselves a floor price for corn, in the form of the 'Corn Laws' which dictated that no foreign corn could enter the UK until the price was a minimum level, from memory this was 16/- per cwt ... a lot of money, which meant that mid-income people spent the majority of their wages for bread, and low-income people starved

The landowners did very very well indeed on this deal ..... so, we ask ourselves - were the Corn Laws a good idea? ... might the extension of suffrage in 1832 have been a bad idea, in that it inevitably resulted in a reduction of the power of the oligarchy and an elimination of dictated pricing? ..... hmmm ... there's a lot on the net on the Corn Laws, here are some terms for google -

corn laws
richard cobden
john bright
victoria
disraeli
peel
chartists
wellington
free trade

.. for example - dspace.dial.pipex.com



To: marcos who wrote (365)3/24/2002 12:55:37 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1293
 
I was about to say I agreed with AW, then I read your leftist rant. I'm going to have to rethink this.

In general, I'm against this sort of thing. I figure screwing the Canadians is like screwing a family member. Canadians have been very good neighbors and loyal allies and that's something the US gov't should keep on mind.