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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (241383)3/23/2002 10:17:50 PM
From: 10K a day  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Leave dave alone, He's ashamed enough...



To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (241383)3/23/2002 11:44:17 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 769667
 
Karen,

Re: I thought Bush Sr.'s objective was to take out Hussein.

That is not correct. That may be what the press wants the American public to believe, because the American public basically can't handle complexity, but the actual U.S. policy in the Iraq/Syria/Iran triangle is to keep the three at essentially parity so that a regional superpower doesn't threaten our interests in the region. This is the continuation of the Great Game boundary jerry-rigging that Winston Churchill and others instituted upon the breakup of the Ottoman Empire at the end of WW I.

The Sykes-Picot Agreement, 1916:
yale.edu

Sykes-Picot Map:
news.bbc.co.uk

marxists.de

TTBOMK, the following is the definitive statement on our policy vis a vis Saddam Hussein:

Message 16641916

All the bluster in the media is simple Manichean sabre rattling designed to satiate the red-meat-and-vengeance crowd here in the domestic media markets. Don't be fooled. We have no interest in destabilizing the regime in Baghdad. Merely keeping it on the leash.

Other resources:

See "British Influence" for a history of the founding of modern Iraq here:

home.achilles.net

Iraq as an unnatural state with deeply conflicted populations:

1uptravel.com

Basically, Western diplomats created a mess that they hoped to be able to control. So far, so good. <g>

Cheers, Ray



To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (241383)3/24/2002 1:49:59 AM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Johnson was so devastated by what was going on in Viet Nam, he did not run again.
ROTFLMAO!!!!
NOTHING could embarrass that jackass. Slick Willie's spiritual father.

WHAT A CROCK OF ****!!!!! Johnson did not run again because he would have been DESTROYED at the polls!

Gimme a break.

If Kennedy had remained pres instead of Johnson, perhaps the Viet Nam issue would have been resolved.
Or maybe the WH would have been converted into a brothel. I think that's much more probable than your version.

Or if Goldwater had won, Viet Nam would have been blown off the planet.
We should be so lucky.