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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (241540)	3/24/2002 10:00:16 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

I really think he's just an ignorant slob who doesn't understand totalitarianism, and thinks that liberty simply falls out of the trees and renews itself every Spring. We dodged a bullet with the Clinton/Gore Nazis. They are gone for good. We should call ourselves "lucky" (as Patton called his army). But the Founders are looking down smugly from Heaven, and laughing that even these contemporary morons couldn't lose their freedom-despite their folly-under the system they authored 200+ years ago...

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (241540)	3/24/2002 11:34:40 PM
From: rich4eagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Lazarus, you can claim whatever you want, the term Socialist in Nazi has nothing to with what did and who they where, they were an extreme right wing group, get it, or are you just blind to the facts and hiding behind a meaningless name!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 NAZI= right wing extremists. You mind is shallow if you cannot realize this. And what the hell does Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan and Bush have to do with it, NOTHING! The leaders of North Viet Nam were the Democratic Party does that mean they were good founders of Democracy? Sometimes the shallowness here is amazing! To call NAZI's socialists is a laugh, THEY WERE RIGHT WING DICTATORS and AUTOCRATS!!!!!!!!

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (241540)	3/25/2002 10:34:54 AM
From: E	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

The Nazi economic system, as it developed, was a hybrid. It had welfare features associated with socialism, but it was, in essence, corporatist, ie, based on government empowerment and co-optation/control of the great corporations, freed of the annoyance of trade unions. Private individuals of the right ethnicity were enabled to amass enormous fortunes. Inheritance was made impartible to encourage the accumulation of great personal wealth. It was protectionist, autarkist, and, like totalitarian communist countries (Russia, China, No. Vietnam, Pol Pot, the usual suspects), it destroyed all internal sources of democratic opposition. Autocratic right wing regimes shared a set of politically repressive policies with their totalitarian communist counterparts, practices or policies that they did not share with democratic socialist countries. Nazism loved the corporations and wealth-accumulation with a passion. The Nazi "concern" for the masses was designed to harness them as slaves to the imperial and militaristic ambitions of the right wing Hitler regime. -- "right wing" regimes, as opposed to socialist or populist regimes, are defined by their special solicitude for the owners of capital, the vested interests, the historical winners in the economic struggle. Right wing regimes manifest characteristic hostility to the processes of democratization, ie expansion of the suffrage, freedom of organization, freedom of expression, on the part of the non-winners especially. Although in the beginning, people like FDR, Churchill, and George Bernard Shaw patted Hitler on the back for his anti-depression economics, it was the right wing of the U.S. Republican Party which contained by far the largest reservoir of Hitler sympathizers up to the declaration of WW II. (Unfortunately, I won't be able to argue with you today, but I think I'll post a link to this discussion on SMBR; maybe somebody will!) Edit P.S.: The National "Socialist" Adolf Hitler threw all the members of the German Socialist party in jail as soon as he had the power to do it, and eradicated them as a political entity.