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To: cosmicforce who wrote (4770)	3/25/2002 6:00:34 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

<I am under no obligation to consider consider the sensibilities of someone else's religious prejudices. Period.< So your stand on abortion (if you have one) is aligned with that of other conservatives? Maybe I'm going to regret asking this but what does your comment have to do with Laz's? Tim

To: cosmicforce who wrote (4770)	3/25/2002 6:03:13 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

A person is under no "legal" obligation to consider other people's "religious prejudices" or - in less loaded language- the decisions other people have made about religion. But if you've been in society at all you KNOW you are under social obligations. You don't go to a church and start talking very loudly about how stupid all the parishoners are. You don't go to synagogue and start talking about how great the Nazis are, or singing the Aryan Nations anthem (whatever it is)- sure, these verge on breach of the peace, but even if they didn't, it would be just plain weird and anti-social to do these things. It is not necessary to be anti-social in order to talk with people who do not agree with you. Obviously some people do like to do this- but it is not necessary. It is not illegal to be rude, and call names, but it is not mandatory for intelligent discussion- in fact, it kind of gets in the way of intelligent discussion. I used to think being the mirror for your opponent in a discussion worked on the net. But it only works if you want to have pissed off people who aren't listening to each other. I'm not sure I see the point of that any more. And I'm also not sure why that makes me a hypocrite or makes it ok to attack me. Be assured, however, that I will be trying not to attack anyone else, or call them names- no matter what bad behavior I encounter. Although I am trying to limit the bad behavior I may chance to encounter- and I really don't see why that is so very wrong either. I'm not sure I'll ever understand that..

To: cosmicforce who wrote (4770)	3/25/2002 8:25:59 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

So your stand on abortion (if you have one) is aligned with that of other conservatives? I believe the spread here is wider than you wish to believe. There are Religious Rightists and just plain Rightists. I'm the "just plain" variety. I'm sure I'll get fire from my own side (some of it anyway), but I wish the Religious Right would crawl back under the rock it came from. No, I am not anti-abortion. I am pro-choice. And I've said so many times before. It's a very badly kept secret.