To: carranza2 who wrote (19138 ) 3/25/2002 8:55:08 PM From: Eric L Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 34857 re: carranza's FUDD and FUDDSI << End of discussion as far as I'm concerned. >> It's not as far as I'm concerned, Carranza. Opinions, which you are prone to quack on about, are one thing ... ... but when you waddle over to this particular thread on this particular financial board, and intentionally, or out of sheer ignorance, misrepresent facts and disseminate disinformation that you can't back up, that is another thing. << your contemporaneous apology to me >> You got NO apology from me, Nor will you. Take a moment and reread my post to you here and if any of the shoes I describe fit you, please feel free to wear them: << Illmarinen contemporaneously listening to Jorma speak in Finnish, then contemporaneously correcting your erroneous understanding >> There was no "erroneous understanding" on my behalf on 01/30/01, or any other time. Perhaps Illmarinen listened to a version in Finnish. Feel free to ask Illmarinen to tell you whether he did or not. I listened to the worldwide webcast that Jorma delivered in the global language of modern business, and I transcribed exactly what he stated for those to lazy to listen but who are prone to quack and disseminate disinformation anyway. << We all know the references to what Jorma said are long gone, which is exactly why you ask me to produce them. >> No, they are not long gone. They are easily accessible to you, me, and anyone else that cares to listen or is not to lazy to listen before quacking off. Nokia's website is not like Qualcomm's where webcast's and presentations are frequently expunged like a cleansing broom to not leave an audit trail for you know who Senior, Junior 1, Junior 2, and "Staff". << I surely don't recall anything from Nokia suggesting that the "pent up demand" was less than expected. >> You don't recall anything from Nokia because you are too busy quacking to listen and pay attention to anything going on in the big wide world ... ... but be that as it may I doubt seriously that Nokia would send you (or me) the notes of their strategy sessions like Qualcomm telegraphed to the Chinese several years ago. << I also don't recall anything public being said about Nokia purposefully missing the Xmas market for its GPRS sets >> They shipped 2 million GPRS handsets in Q4 2001 as they stated they would, starting with a trickle by truck on the last Friday of Q3. They represented a small but meaningful part of the 42.8 million they shipped in Q4. [and whoops, I miscalculated percentages in a previous post - should have been almost 5% and for that I'll apologize] << I admit that a host of issues could lead to that, i.e., carrier lack of preparation, insufficient marketing, etc. >> That is the most intelligent thing you have stated in your last dozen posts to this board. << Perhaps that's something you learned at the Nokia Treehouse Club. >> Perhaps I learned it elsewhere. << Makes no difference now. Ancient history. >> Not so ancient and the future of GPRS (and 1xRTT) stretches out in front of us. << Just by Gawd don't call me a liar when your clutch begins to slip. >> When you state something inaccurately, and I know it to be inaccurate, you will hear from me or he:Message 16419585 If any of those shoes fit you, feel free to wear them. - Eric -