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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (4912)	3/26/2002 3:38:38 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

How does Steven Rogers fit in here? I've always thought of Steven as libertarian. You know, we don't discuss all issues here. Mostly we discuss social issues and, of late, the war. We don't see a full picture of people. Since we talk mostly about social stuff, you probably only see the left half of the libertarians. Steven is a take responsibility for yourself kind of guy and a laissez faire kind of guy. He sure ain't a classic lefty or a classic righty. I don't know if he has all the correct squares checked. Does any of us? But I know where he's coming from and it's essentially libertarian. (I also find myself agreeing with him more consistently than I do anyone else. He's a professional writer. I should hire him to write my posts for me and go do something constructive. <g>)

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (4912)	3/26/2002 8:23:39 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 21057

LEFTIST???!!!! Bastage!!!! and I ain't no anarchist either. But, I am a small "l" libertarian. I was a member for a couple of years, but found the party to be filled with a bunch of unrealistic nutballs. So, I am a libertarian by philosophy alone and will only vote Libertarian when I want to vote against both of the main parties or when we get a candidate that is a little more pragmatic. But I ain't no leftist!!!

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (4912)	3/26/2002 9:09:26 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

How does Steven Rogers fit in here? He claims to be libertarian. I claimed no such thing. I am very much in sympathy with the libertarians on some issues, but I am not inclined to swallow the entire fundamentalist libertarian platform. My mouth just doesn't open wide enough to swallow fundamentalist platforms of any kind. He is socially liberal, but I have yet to hear him expound anything I would consider economically conservative. You've obviously never seen me do the free trade-vs.-protectionism thing. Seriously, though, if the issue is government intervention in the economy, this is what I think: Think of the economy as a basketball game. Think of the executive branch of government as the referee. If the referee gets too strict and too intrusive, the game will never come to life. If the referee is too lenient, the game becomes a brawl. The trick is to let the game flow while making sure that the basic rules are followed, and that nobody gets maimed. Some games need a lot more intervention than others. Some games may need no control at all. Some games may need to be called off completely, if the players can't behave. The rules need to be clear, as simple as possible, and rooted in common sense, or the task of the referee becomes impossible. Both those who make the rules and those who enforce them need to understand and appreciate the game. You can feel free to call that liberal or conservative. I don't call it anything, it's just the framework I use when I think about economic intervention.