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To: cosmicforce who wrote (4927)	3/26/2002 3:58:18 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

balanced budgets. Suppose they want to "balance the budget on the backs of the poor"? Are you still an economic conservative? Choice: prisons or schools? Schools There's an implicit assumption in that that the juvenile delinquents WANT to be in schools and somehow lack of spending on education is stopping them. What's your plan? Lock them up in the schoolhouse and not let them leave? Put armed guards around it?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (4927)	3/26/2002 4:52:01 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Nice post, cosmic.

To: cosmicforce who wrote (4927)	3/26/2002 6:27:14 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 21057

ROI from prisons? Negative (lower lifetime income, increase in criminality and violence in post-release NVOs) Prisons have a positive ROI in most cases. Getting a criminal off the street reduces crime. The return might be seen as avoiding a loss which would have happened rather then making a profit, but its still a positive return on investment. I think we could increase that ROI by putting more violent offenders in prison and less non-violent drug offenders but even with the current situation we normally get a positive ROI from prison spending. Tim