To: dybdahl who wrote (66425 ) 3/27/2002 4:42:55 PM From: keithsha Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74651 MSFT and Open Standards... You can get to Office files including Access and Excel via XML and DOM, here's how msdn.microsoft.com Abandon the use of COM? It's the most successful software component object model in the world. Not about storing info there. You can get to Exchange via the following open standards: Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP), POP3, IMAP4, SMTP, LDAP, and HTTP. microsoft.com Microsoft's implmentation of kerberos is compliant with the open standard spec and interoperates with non-windows implmentations microsoft.com You really don't understand XML. It is a standard for defining schema as in a file format, but also for a variety of other uses. Such as service invocation (SOAP) binding (WSDL) discovery (UDDI) and others collectively know as web services. keithsha Message #66425 from dybdahl at Mar 27, 2002 2:56 AM Microsoft does not believe in open standards unless they can earn money by doing it. Also, their usage of the term "open standard" often differs from what other companies and people mean. A good example is XML. XML is a standard, but it's not a fileformat. XML defines how to create file formats. If Microsoft really believed in open XML standards, they would adopt OpenOffice's fileformat for Word and Excel. But that would kill MS Office. If Microsoft really believed in open standards, they would abandon the use of COM for storing information and make the Microsoft Access file format well documented and open for everybody to use without buying Access. If Microsoft really believed in open standards, they would use open standards to interface MS Exchange server with its clients, instead of using Microsoft network centric protocols, including Active Directory. If Microsoft really believed in open standards, their Kerberos implementation would have been different. Supporting XML is like supporting ASCII. Everybody does it, even much software made in the 1970's, so the claim of supporting it has no value. Dybdahl.