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To: milo_morai who wrote (75780)	3/28/2002 5:34:13 AM
From: AK2004	Respond to of 275872

Milo note the choices: Balanced Too academic Too much arguement Too little arguement they are not allowing you to be too critical of their research paper. Feedback is a disgrace by itself.... Regards -Albert

To: milo_morai who wrote (75780)	3/28/2002 6:54:18 AM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 275872

Milo, Looks like Intel got crap on feet with this one. theinquirer.net Bill

To: milo_morai who wrote (75780)	3/28/2002 8:04:10 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 275872

Aberdeen Group: Making Arthur Anderson look Good... Just when you thought Arthur Anderson was at the bottom of the pit... Along comes Abergate! :-)

To: milo_morai who wrote (75780)	3/28/2002 1:32:15 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Yep, this Mr. McCullough from Aberdeen is really a piece: "..equivalency rating is no longer factual and scientific for the following reasons: numerous performance improvements have been released by application software suppliers; the 2001 edition bench- marks used by AMD now have 2002 versions; and Intel introduced..." (p.2) So, benchmark fudging and re-compillations are allowed to take advantages of the "inherent" P4 "streaming" architecture in Aberdeen's mind, but it is no-no for Athlon: "AMD and Microsoft enhanced Media Player, a component of SYSmark 2001, allows Media Player to take advantage of inherent Athlon XP instructions." (p.5) What a hoot, Engel-speak <ggg>. They also are complaining about "inconsistencies". What an idiot: this McCullogh does not realize that all application-based benchmarks are noticeably affected even how the hard drive is partitioned, how the system files were created historically, by the order how previous applications were installed and uninstalled, was the drive cloned or freshly installed, etc., dozens of "inconsistencies" may happen... Also: "Intel Beats AMD on Intel Intel scores at BAPCo beat the results reported by AMD for the same processor on SYSmark 2001. The same is true with Quake III Arena Demo Arena II. It should not be surprising that Intel knows how to tune its systems better than AMD." The guy has no clue about video driver's importance. It is well known that a heavy optimized code for P4 also improves performance of Athlon, but to much lesser degree. No wonder the latest and best Intel drivers also increase scores of Athlon systems, so what the catch? Yes, the report is full of sh1t. - Ali