To: E who wrote (5378 ) 3/29/2002 12:50:57 PM From: Poet Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 21057 Finally, someone willing to discuss this reasonably. I assume that the point was that they didn't get a chance at recognition because they weren't given significant roles, which is true, isn't it? Yes, quite true.I don't know if that's a disgrace in the sense that any conscious decision to exclude was made by conscious racists. I think it's much more complex than that. Yes! These days, racism is so much more subtle. And the tone of the article posted is, IMO, characteristic of contemporary racism.If her performance wasn't the best, I think she shouldn't have gotten the Oscar. If it was, I'm glad she did. Yes, I agree. Bill and I are going to see "Monster's Ball" tonight. i'll let you know what I think.I suspect that if there had been fine films being made with fine leading performances by black actresses, those performances would have been fairly and without negative bias considered by Hollywood for Oscars for quite a few years if not decades. I think this is true after the 1960's or so, but probably not true prior to that, when racism against blacks was institutionalized and overtly accepted.So the question is why those films weren't made. The answer would be, I assume, because those with the money to make the films didn't think they would make more money by making those films. That includes blacks with money and whites with money, and there are plenty of both. Plenty of black filmmakers with money? I can think of only a handful, Spike Lee leading the pack. Poitier and Washington have each had a series of films in which they were the star. This has not been the case for black actresses and I can't think of a reason why that is. Angela Bassett's great performance in "What's Love Got to Do with It?" stands out in my mind, but she hasn't been offered many good starring roles in the years since, it seems. It'll be interesting to see if more films are made starring black actresses and whether a few will emerge as longstanding stars with the status of someone like Poitier, Streep, etc. Edit: She mentioned a series of predecessor black actress whom she implied should have won academy awards. Were their performances stellar? Better than the competing ones? I don't know.