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To: epicure who wrote (5808)	3/30/2002 10:06:43 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Here is a nice test for Neo Early in our discussions, Neo agreed that "not having contempt for a normal human reaction to the mysteries of existence" works both ways. No contempt for atheists, either. I think Neo passes that test. I still have reservations about him regarding the beef-eating test, though. <g> As for Chris, I mostly know what I have seen on this thread. Reading his posts, I don't get the impression that I'm held in contempt for my beliefs. Do you?

To: epicure who wrote (5808)	3/30/2002 10:08:29 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

I'm listing to the Bush radio address now. In his holiday message, he managed to throw us a bone again today mentioning the good people who practice no faith at all. He even managed to sound sincere.

To: epicure who wrote (5808)	4/2/2002 11:27:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

I disagree on the major premise, that most religions mandate disrespect for others. Also, not all religions are proselytizing, and those that are do not necessarily want "to foist" anything, but engage in reasonable argument to advance their cause. Finally, the public sphere is not going to be devoid of religious expression so long as the overwhelming majority find some such expression appropriate. For example, the use of the [Episcopal] National Cathedral as a non- sectarian gathering place for memorial services for prominent members of the government, or for national days of mourning or thanksgiving, is likely enough to continue, because it is generally perceived to be appropriate to use ceremony invoking God to solemnize certain occasions. Similarly, it is unlikely that the custom of lighting a national Christmas Tree will be abandoned any time soon. Beyond that, it will be a matter of court rulings and community discretion. In the end, people do not feel that they have an endless obligation to defer to the sensibilities of others........