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To: 249443 who wrote (14201)3/31/2002 11:44:45 AM
From: MCsweet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78735
 
mrcjmoney

First, thanks for your encouraging feedback.

Second, fixated was too strong a word and doesn't apply to your specific post. What I really trying to do is make an observation about the numerous postings on Warren Buffet on this board.

There is nothing wrong with postings about Warren Buffet, but I am more interested in stock ideas and insights that you and other posters have. I am not as interested in what Warren Buffet is buying next or what kind of company might he like.

This is just my preference --- I'm not out to spark a debate or censor anyone. I just wanted to get that off of my chest.

Ahhhh, I feel better now.

MC



To: 249443 who wrote (14201)4/3/2002 8:21:43 PM
From: TimbaBear  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78735
 
mrcjmoney

I just couldn't help myself today! I bought ACK (Armstrong Holdings) you know, the flooring company.

Right up front, they have filed bankruptcy and it's about asbestos litigation.

But I'll tell you, there comes a point when the money is just laying there......

I get Free Cash Flow of about $2.80/share (I bought the shares today for $3.32). I get a NetNet valuation of $35.00/share. Even in bankruptcy proceedings ACK has a Return on Capital Employed of 10% (If I use FCF instead of earnings it's 14%).

This is a company that filed bankruptcy to stop the onslaught of asbestos litigations. They have a solid business model, and even assuming the carrying of a multi-billion dollar debt from asbestos, their cash flow would be solid for this price point investment.

I backed away from some other companies due to asbestos, but I just had to take a shot on this one. I'll throw the shares in the IRA drawer and see how they look in 5 years or so.

Timba