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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (244103)	3/30/2002 9:05:10 PM
From: rich4eagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Not when you are hard right wing conservative, usually these folks have so many folks irritated that getting a date is a real challenge, not to mention having a real sexual relationship

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (244103)	3/30/2002 9:41:58 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Stressing abstinence is doing nothing in my opinion That's what I thought, and it may be, if there are no other moral values being taught. That is the crux for some,....who's the teacher and what are they teaching. I'd think you are quite capable of teaching your kids these things. If the State is the educator on all matters they'll eventually be say... your dietician.....then eventually your master.

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (244103)	4/2/2002 12:15:07 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

>> Stressing abstinence is doing nothing in my opinion. It is proven that abstinence only programs are abysmal failures << gee, i wonder why people don't want to be abstinent anymore. gee, maybe it's because women know if they get pregnant they can slaughter their unborn child. if they have any conscience whatsoever and decide to keep their child, the government gives them a check every month so they can take care of the baby. in fact, have more babies get a bigger check! no need to get married and have a stable home to bring the child up in, she can just collect child support. gee, maybe if liberals stopped doling out incentives for people to have babies out of wedlock, people might actually listen to the abstinence message. liberals are the ones who seek to remove all moral restraints and unburden the individual from any sense of personal responsibility. as usual, liberals cause the problem in the first place, and then suggest that their bigger and more oppressive government is needed to solve it. of course we know that the welfare state and other government social programs are the abysmal failure, not traditional values such as abstinence. >> Education doesn't hurt anyone << go tell an israeli that education doesn't hurt anyone after they are blown up by a young palestinian who was inculcated in school at the age of seven with the glory of being a terrorist. the wrong type of education can be very harmful. >> You know full well that most teenagers laugh at the abstinence programs << that's because liberals have debased our culture and kids are bombarded with sexually suggestive material everywhere they turn. when given the choice of abstinence and then seeing the president fool around, and all their heroes on mtv prancing around scantily clad, and then seeing jerry springer guests engaged in debauchery and depravity, are we then surprised they go for the self-gratification? >> Teens have raging hormones and I would rather have my children educated about all forms of birth control and disease avoidance so they can combine that with moral values and make a better decision for all. << teens had the same raging hormones a century ago didn't they? back in 1900 only 6% of unmarried white women had affairs before age nineteen. now it's three in four. did they just not have hormones in the olden days? as recently as 1960, before the filthy counterculture took america hostage, only 2% of children born to white women were out of wedlock. now it's in the mid twenties and pushing close to 30% percent. it's 70% for black kids. divorce is up nearly five-fold since the early sixties. all because of the destructive agenda wrought on america by the treacherous purveyors of debauchery--liberals.