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To: Condor who wrote (22916)3/31/2002 9:58:10 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Well, I know I sound like I get emotional about this at times, but that's not really the case (except with regard to to the attacks against the WTC)..

I'm really quite pragmatic (fatalistic?) about all this conflict. It's tough to be objective about what we read and see in the news, or opinion sections, but I try to remain somewhat objective about it all.

Except when attacks occur against Americans, I really don't have a "dog" in this fight.. And I've never stated that I don't believe the Palestinians don't have a right to resist against Israeli troops.. But it's the attacks directed SPECIFICALLY against civilians which I find really beyond the pale. Folks have criticized the Israelis for using missiles and bombs to retaliate, causing casualties amongst civilians, but I do not believe for a moment that they have been deliberately trying to kill civilians.

Personally, I think Israel has just as much right to exist as any other state in the region. I also believe that nothing the Israelis have done with regard to occupying the West Bank and Gaza is illegal, nor constitutes any more "repression" than existed under previous Arab regimes.

What we have here are two people that their neighbors detest. The Arabs could care less about the Palestinians, except to someday make them subjects of some "Pan-Arab" superstate in which they would become just as much the minority as they claim to be in Israel.

Each Arab nation has possessed some wacko leader who strives to be the next "Saladin", uniting the Arab peoples and destroying any semblance of Western influence in the region.

I can blame Israel for often going a bit overboard with regard to bull-dozing the houses of the families of the Palestinian opposition, and possibly not doing more to develop the territories. But I can also see why they wouldn't want to throw "good money after bad" if they were going to be required to some day give it back to Jordan or as a Palestinian state.

But you're right.. tempers are flaring a bit as we find ourselves seeing events taking on even more violent overtones.

Hawk



To: Condor who wrote (22916)3/31/2002 10:59:11 PM
From: SirRealist  Respond to of 281500
 
>>This thread is definitely descending<<

I forget who it was that said: "Why keep up with the Joneses? I say, drag them down to your level. " <GG>