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To: Dan3 who wrote (143772)3/31/2002 10:57:14 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1579897
 
There weren't any Iraqis in those planes on 9/11, the planes were hijacked by Saudi Arabians. But Iraq oil money didn't support the administration's campaign, while Saudi oil money did, so Iraq is now looking down the barrel of a missile launcher, while the terrorists in Israel continue to be fully funded by their buddies in Saudi Arabia.

But, Dan, you don't understand. Its not the Saudis fault......bin Laden, the mastermind that he is, managed to get Saudis on those planes so that we would hold the Saudis accountable and their long and fruitful relationship with us would be tarnished. He wants to drive a wedge between us!!

At least that's the spin coming out of DC. What is really interesting of late is the signing by the US of the UN's declaration stating that Israel must withdraw from Palestine. While we are signatory to that document, apparently Bush does not agree with its major premise......his latest comments indicate the US position is that we back Sharon's moves against Palestine, declaring that Israel is fighting its own war on terrorism.

Does the US have two foreign policies when it comes to the Middle East? Are we taking both sides in the hopst that if the world blows up, we won't get blamed? <g>

I think that thing that got me over the top with the Saudis is when I heard that the Saudi minister who attended the peace summit in Beirut kissed in greeting the Iraqi representative and acted as if Saudi Arabia and Iraq are the allies we aren't.

ted



To: Dan3 who wrote (143772)3/31/2002 10:58:07 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1579897
 
Dan, you're right. We ought to invade Saudi Arabia and drive only solar-powered vehicles. Then terrorism would no longer be a threat in this world.

Tenchusatsu



To: Dan3 who wrote (143772)4/1/2002 12:05:46 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1579897
 
Almost all of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, the financing and technical support was all Saudi, and yet we invade Afghanistan while obsequiously thanking Saudi Arabia for not condemning us.

We invaded Afghanistan because that's where the biggest concentration of the terrorists where. That's where there terrorist camps and a big part of their leadership where located. You attack where the enemy is located not where they where born. I'm not saying that the US doesn't have any problems with the Saudi government but they are not are enemy.

The present administration gives every indication of being owned, lock, stock, and barrel by the oil companies,

Nonsense, or at least a vast exaggeration. The present administration agrees with the oil company about a lot of things so it will push policies that they like more often then those that they dislike but that doesn't mean that either the oil companies or Saudi make the decisions for this administration.

The same pattern holds with Enron. Enron pulls this vicious swindle, and the present administration, who's biggest contributor was Enron, puts 100% of the blame on Enron's auditors, ignoring that it was Enron that committed the crimes.

I would like you to show me one place where I can find a quote from a non anonymous senior administration official saying that Enron is not to blame and did nothing wrong.

Meanwhile, Israel's getting creamed, in part, it appears, because the oil money based funding sources of the terrorists have learned that they can continue to act with impunity as long as the present administration is in power.

This administration has done more to battle terrorists then any administration that I can remember. (Of course it had more provocation). The Clinton administration did nothing that had any impact after the first WTC attack, or the Cole bombing. As for PLO terrorism and the PLO's funding, a lot of it comes from the EU. Should we bomb London, Paris, Rome, and Berlin? Should we bomb parts of Boston (or let the UK do it) because of the funding for the IRA from Irish Americans.

There weren't any Iraqis in those planes on 9/11, the planes were hijacked by Saudi Arabians.

And Egyptians and a few people from a couple of other countries in the region. Should we just bomb everyone? If John Walker Lindh had been one of the attackers should we have bombed California and MD?

Tim



To: Dan3 who wrote (143772)4/2/2002 5:20:41 PM
From: SilentZ  Respond to of 1579897
 
Dan- Great post, but...

Though I do agree that Saudi Arabia needs to be on our list of enemies, Iraq and Iran both pay compensation to the families of suicide bombers and Hisbollah and Islamic Jihad come from Syria/Lebanon and Egypt, respectively. I think it is time that we made this a war on militant Islam and all of these Islamic states.

-Z

>Almost all of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, the financing and technical support was all Saudi, and yet we invade Afghanistan while obsequiously thanking Saudi Arabia for not condemning us.

>The present administration gives every indication of being owned, lock, stock, and barrel by the oil companies, and the oil companies appear to do whatever Saudi Arabia tells them to do - even post 9/11.

>The same pattern holds with Enron. Enron pulls this vicious swindle, and the present administration, who's biggest contributor was Enron, puts 100% of the blame on Enron's auditors, ignoring that it was Enron that committed the crimes.

>Meanwhile, Israel's getting creamed, in part, it appears, because the oil money based funding sources of the terrorists have learned that they can continue to act with impunity as long as the present administration is in power.

>There weren't any Iraqis in those planes on 9/11, the planes were hijacked by Saudi Arabians. But Iraq oil money didn't support the administration's campaign, while Saudi oil money did, so Iraq is now looking down the barrel of a missile launcher, while the terrorists in Israel continue to be fully funded by their buddies in Saudi Arabia.