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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (244280)4/1/2002 6:23:43 PM
From: cAPSLOCK  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Ann was coming at the "hunting for pleasure is evil" argument from the ethical stance when in fact if she lives a fairly 'normal' life her conveniences and pleasures cost the lives of animals. That makes her a hypocrit IMHO.

I perused the list in the link you provided but they provide no detail on many of the things they and you list as animal derived.....here are a few.., can you tell us what an animal product is used for in the following?

tires, matches, china, chalk, mouthwash, deoderants, paper, glass, rubber, antifreeze, ceramics, plastics, asphalt, petroleum products(we're not going back to the dinosaurs on this one, are we?), brake fluid....

Animal byproducts are used in the production of those as well.

I don't really have all the time to do research to prove this.. but I can find something for you to think about... hrm here...

Here is a quote that goes a little deeper from an ANTI-AR site:

However, white sugar is refined using animal bone charcoal as a filter. Artifical red dyes are extracted from beetle chitin. All storebought bread contains stearoyl-lactylate from cattle as a dough conditioner. Stearic acid, a fatty acid from cattle, is found in tires, cosmetics, candles, rubber, plastic, metallurgy, paper-making, printing and dyeing of textiles. Antifreeze, asphalt, hydraulic brake fluid, airplane fluid, runway foam, various machine lubricants, viscous fluids, steel ball bearings, car wax and upholstery contain cattle by-products. Lip balm and hand lotion often contain lanolin from sheep and/or beeswax. In fact, anything made from plastic or using fossil fuels contains by-products from animals that died. Produce, particularly organic produce, may have been urinated on by animals or grown with animal dung fertilizer. Grain may contain eggs, larvae, pupae or adults of various insect species, some too small to see. In fact, insect "residue" in grain was the only thing keeping a sect of South Indian vegans from dying of vitamin B-12 deficiency - when the group migrated to england, many died as a result of "cleaner" grain storage.

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My point to Ann wasn't that we should feel bad for all the animals we kill... It was that we can't really judge hunters while living in modern society.

cAPS