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To: tcmay who wrote (76178)4/2/2002 12:25:18 PM
From: g_w_northRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
>People Hate Success ETC...<

I totally agree that many people hate successful companies and people. 'Have-nots' many times are jealous of the 'haves'. I believe that one thing you are overlooking here is abuse of power. I know, I'm coming back to that argument again, but once companies or people make it to the top many times they will stop at nothing to remain there. Whether it be a dictator manipulating votes, media or the like, or whether it is Microsoft manipulating their code so as to not work with competitors products on equal basis, the resulting backlash is inevitable.

Certainly, Intel has been the leader in innovation over the past 30 years, I don't dispute that and nobody here could but their business practices have come under scrutiny in the last five or six years (or maybe longer). In the end that is for others to decide as my job is to try and disseminate the information and make investment decisions based upon it.

By the way, Nietzsche didn't exactly a 'nail it'. He ended up in the insane asylum believing he was Jesus Christ and then committing suicide.



To: tcmay who wrote (76178)4/2/2002 1:45:41 PM
From: Ali ChenRespond to of 275872
 
"Athlon saved his bacon (kudos to the NexGen team)."

It shows how little you know about things.

"Dynamic RAMs, EPROMs, the microprocessor, the development system, several major architectures, manufacturing "tricks" (secrets) that were the envy of the chip industry,"

Maybe you should add the operation "Crush" to the list,
their "inventive" marketing of non-existent chips.
Then rushing the under-engineered "crap" of i82XX ...

They "won" because they did not play fair, which seems to
be always the case in big business. No wonder no one likes
aggressors and enslavers, no matter how "successful"
they are from other aggressor's metrics.

- Ali



To: tcmay who wrote (76178)4/2/2002 4:49:15 PM
From: brushwudRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
But where's the leadership even remotely comparable to what Intel innovated over those same 30 years? Dynamic RAMs, EPROMs, the microprocessor, the development system, several major architectures...

Let me put the question back to you, regarding Intel:

Where's the leadership even remotely comparable to what Intel innovated over 30 years ago? Dynamic RAMs, EPROMs, the microprocessor, the development system...all of those innovations came before you even went to work there.

...several major architectures...most of which were failures. The most successful by far was the IA-32.

...that vaulted Intel to become the #1 chip producer in the world?

Vaunted Intel vaulted to #1 through a virtual monopoly on x86 chips. They abandoned the DRAM business where you made your most significant contribution. Intel makes all of its profit on IA-32; everything else is just "Other".