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To: TimF who wrote (6429)4/2/2002 8:59:13 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 21057
 
because it could be interpreted as saying that atheists and agnostics (or Hindus, Buddhists ect..) are not civilized.

Nice of you to notice.

I don't think Ashcroft meant that

Yes, he did. Don't kid yourself. He probably thinks it about Muslims, too, but he's following the party line.



To: TimF who wrote (6429)4/2/2002 9:41:30 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 21057
 
' ""Civilized individuals, Christians, Jews, and Muslims, all understand..." '

Were this from a different speaker it would not offend me, i would at first glance take it to include four distinct groups of human beings, i.e.

1. Civilised individuals
2. Christians
3. Jews
4. Muslims

... no problem there, with radical agnostics as No. 1 -g-