To: 2MAR$ who wrote (949 ) 4/3/2002 4:00:07 AM From: joseph krinsky Respond to of 2279 They are the "but" people. I stole that from someone else. It's appropriate . Killing innocents is wrong but... 9-11 was wrong but.... suicides are wrong but.... We in the west have discussions on suicides but we talk about whether or not people have the right to kill themselves philosophically..who owns their bodies? is it right or wwrong? they have discussion about suicides as it pertains to whether or not people have the right to take out a shopping mall with them. The issue is not israel. the issue is islam. give them israel. kill all the jews there. let's see what happens. I am betting that nothing changes, the muslims continue to kill non muslims, and israel after the muslims take over it becomes a country of oppression, just like every other country that the muslims get control over. women become second class citizens only good for breeding. their sex organs are mutalated so that they get no pleasure from sex. Is that what you want for your daughters? there is no justification for how they treat women. even if all women are total whores everywhere, & they live for sex, & they are the worst thing ever invented, there is still no justification for treating them the way the muslims do. if they were enlightened and all the bad things they must think about women were true, they would accept it and just say..well that's the way they are. western men aren't angels when it comes to women, I won't deny that, but western men have tolerence, we don't mutilate them, we don't deny them equality. If a woman embarasses her husband we yell at them we divorce them, but that's about it. women are special. without them (their perspective) mankind would be in worse trouble than it is. sure they drive us crazy, but what else is new? IMo most men don't understand women and their sex drive. They have no control over it. It's about offspring. They are in control of their bodies to a certain extent, but nature drives them. Your wife may love you but her decision was based on things we don't understand yet. The whole sex thing is a mystery, muslims aren't going to control it, and the answer is not stoning some poor woman to death that did something that is natural. Why is it okay for a muslim to have 4 wives? Most men aren't very good sexually, but most women are. The very idea that a man can have four wives means that he is looking at them as breeders. In and out, thank you very much. Have my baby. The religion is screwed up, it needs to be modified. That means from the outside, they have had ample time to do it internally. if they (muslims)take over the planet then what? we say oh well??? at some point the western world is going to have to face the truth. IMO it's better we do it now than later. Keep in mind a picture of your daughter when you think of islam. Do you think that she is only worth a toss in the hay?