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To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (76424)	4/3/2002 8:00:23 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: why would a server manufacturer want to use AMD for only a very small part of their server line Because Athlon MP servers are picking up momentum in the market. The are inexpensive, rock solid reliable, and their 20-way caches give them superior performance on server applications like database and web-hosting.

To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (76424)	4/3/2002 8:18:50 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Monika, When you get all your stuff from one supplier then that supplier has you by the ***, and when someone has you by the ***, your heart and mind do follow. Trapped into exclusivity/tied deals. How eager are many server makers to ease that painful grip?(top end XEON ~ $4000). VERY, VERY, VERY How eager are small server makers to enter that grip?? NOT VERY EAGER AT ALL. How eager are both types to see true competition in the XEON arena? VERY, VERY, VERY. So you are seeing the end of the Intel domination at the final level of chips....the XEONS. In one year we will see an entirely new ASP for these parts, sorta like the cashcade downwards we have seen in desktop parts. That means the SP of Intel will be a lot lower in a year. Check back with you then and see how you feel. Bill

To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (76424)	4/3/2002 9:41:49 PM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

Dear Monica: Why do those in the know pull their Intel servers and replaced them with Athlon servers? Because they were faster, cheaper and more reliable. And those 4 way Xeon 1.6GHz servers are slower than dual AMP 2000+ servers at far higher cost. And for the cost of that 4 way Xeon 1.6GHz server, 3 dual AMP 2000+ servers can be purchased with far higher performance overall. The NB or SB on the Xeon goes bad and its down for the count. One goes on the AMP server, and there are two other servers that take up the load and the cluster stays running. Matter of fact, upgrading the hardware or software does not require the cluster to shut down. Even repair leaves the cluster running 24/7. Faster, better and cheaper wins over slower, worse and expensive most of the time. And that scales far beyond 4 way (288 way ones are running now). You can pick up a 64 way for less than $70K. Pete