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To: Frederick Smart who wrote (33473)	4/5/2002 1:53:40 AM
From: Alan Brezin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Frederick, you are a very articulate fellow and I think you are saying the same things I am but with much greater complexity and sophistication. I follow you but I think simple folks may be able to follow my way of expressing these spiritual ideas a bit more easily. In the spirit of brotherhood, Alanib

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (33473)	4/5/2002 4:21:59 AM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Frederick, I don't know where you learned what you did but you are not representing or promoting the gospel of Jesus Christ. <<<<1) "Father" being the End/Source of all creation. 2) "Spirit" being the Cause through which the light, energy and Love of the Father emmanates. 3) "Son" being the Effect.>>>>> The Father, yes is God. He is the source and sustainer of all creation. But He is not limited to being an individual of just one essence. He is triune. Which means, He is the Father, He is the Son, and He is the Holy Spirit. The Spirit is not the "CAUSE" as you promulgate. If that were the case then tell me how a cause can have feelings. The scriptures tell us not the grieve the Holy Spirit. Now if the Holy Spirit were just a vehicle of power then such a warning would have been pointless. A Christian can sometimes sense the Holy Spirit and knows beyond a doubt that it is not just a power, force or “cause”. It is in fact God. Jesus Christ is God incarnate. Which means that God was able to clothe himself in flesh and become a man. A man who was tempted just like all of us but wasn’t born with a sin nature like the rest of us. Prior to being robed in the flesh He was called the Word of God. ….In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God,. The same was in the beginning with God Jn 1:1-2…..and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. 1:14… <<<<<And by the end of His life here on this earth our Lord God Jesus Christ brought all three into perfect conjunctive unity and oneness. He lived a perfect life, was tempted, and suffered, died on the cross and through his ressurrection his human became divine. >>>>> All three were already in perfect conjunctive unity and oneness, it’s not like God added or subtracted from Himself. To add or subtract assumes that something previously had been lacking. God, could not lack at anytime or he could be omniscient. <<<<Through this life of our Lord who was the Son of Man re-established a direct conjunction between Heaven and Earth once again. A very simple and direct spiritual, physical, mathematical model was established which mankind will be learning more and more about the details of as we all transcend into higher and higher levels of spiritual awareness as this New Age of Light, Energy, Spirit, Peace and Love unfolds. >>>> Re-established? Well why was it broken in the first place and by whom? Ans…it was broken when Adam and Eve fell. But it never stopped God. It’s not like God wasn’t able to still communicate with His creation. Read the bible, you see that since He exists outside of time no “re-establishing” is even necessary on His part. Now of course for men it’s a different story. But this “New Age of Light” as you call it is not the answer. This is a counterfeit. God is Holy and sinful men still are not able to approach him. You can read in the Old Testament how the children of Israel had to have all these sacrifices, rituals etc, performed before they could approach before God and even then it was just the high priest once a year. Now, God has not changed, He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Then, (during old testament times) it was the blood of bulls and goats. But now, Jesus, also know as the lamb of God became an acceptable sacrifice once for all. The blood of bulls and goats and the entire old system has been superceded by the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It’s not that a sacrifice has been done away with and anyone can just trample onto the courts of the Lord. No, when we come to God we don’t come in our own righteousness before Him, He already told us that they are nothing but filthy rags in His sight. We confess our sins and He is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins. We plead the blood of Jesus Christ. We come before God and we had better be certain that the sacrifice is acceptable. If Jesus stands between us and the Father and says that He is our sacrifice then we are ushered in and know of a certainty that God will not visit our sins upon us because he already visited them upon Jesus. The nailprints in His hands still bear testimony. Those who think they will ever come before God any other way are sadly mistaken. So this learning more and more “as we all transcend into higher and higher levels of spiritual awareness” is not only foolish but is sacrilegious. The world more and more is turning it’s back on Jesus not drawing closer and learning more!!!!!! .............i'm not done Chris