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To: Neocon who wrote (7061)	4/5/2002 2:05:35 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

As for "heebie jeebies", it is terribly dismissive of the practices alluded to, and implies that they are so patently offensive to a normal person (with oneself as the standard) that it is hard to conceive of what kind of deluded fool could engage in them. Where do you get this stuff? Offensive? Deluded fool? Is it that, as E said, there is a motivation to interpret it that way? Message 17288403 << Here are two [definitions]: hee·bie-jee·bies (hb-jbz) pl.n. Slang A feeling of uneasiness or nervousness; the jitters. heebie-jeebies plural noun INFORMAL the heebie-jeebies strong feelings of fear or anxiety>> Message 17288397 <<Which reminds me, I had occasion to give some further thought to "heebie-jeebies." I drove yesterday to a neighborhood strip mall and parked almost directly in front of the shop I was visiting. As I walked the twenty feet to the store, I passed a punky looking guy using the pay phone out front. He gave me a look that gave me the heebie-jeebies. Just after I got into the store, I heard a car alarm and immediately went to the window to check my car, which was fine. On my way home, I reflected on the feeling, which is something I experience so rarely that my encounter was an event. I couldn't recall the last time I felt even remotely threatened by someone I encountered. I'm a very trusting person and I am not discomfited by people and situations that would cause anxiety to many. It got me to thinking about why anyone would find contempt in my expression of feeling threatened by certain attitudes and practices. I wonder if the word "anxiety" would have caused the same reaction. Does the use of slang change the tone from anxiety, which would normally arouse sympathy, to something that connotes contempt? Still don't understand that. I suppose that's better addressed to Neo, as well.>> Perhaps you were focused on comments on your essay and missed the definitions of "heebie-jeebies."

To: Neocon who wrote (7061)	4/5/2002 2:08:51 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

neurotic might be better than the implication often made against the heathen non-believers that they are willfully deluding themselves that there is no God, as well as casting their lot with Satan, and making themselves uncivilized destroyers of all that is good, right and proper I think what you describe is rather mild compared to that- and that sort of thing does set some of the backdrop for us people of non-faith. We take a lot worse from believers than stuff about neurosis- although I remember JC Dithers managed to also work in psychological problems, along with many other things- in his analysis on atheists and agnostics