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Politics : The Arab-Israeli Solution -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: SouthFloridaGuy who wrote (1080)4/5/2002 4:07:22 PM
From: William B. Kohn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2279
 
What a crock of shit!

I am Israel - I came to a land without a people for a people without a land.
"Those people who happened to be here, had no right to be here, and my people showed them they had to leave or die, razing 480 Palestinian villages to the ground, erasing their history."

While some Arabs did leave because of Jewish intimidation the overwhelming majority left either because they were afraid to be caught in the oncoming slaughter when the Arab Armies threw the Jews into the sea. This was the promise, so they left, never to return. Those that remained became some of the most prosperous Arabs in the MiddleEast.

"I am Israel - some of my people committed massacres and later became Prime Ministers to represent me. In 1948, Menachem Begin was in charge of the unit that slaughtered the inhabitants of Deir Yassin, including 100 men, women, and children. In 1953, Ariel Sharon led the slaughter of the inhabitants of Qibya, and in 1982 arranged for our allies to butcher around 2,000 in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla".

While Deir Yassin did occur, it is questionable as to who was responsible. A UN commission at the time, found no link between the Irgun and that village event. I don't know anything about Qibya, but I do know that Arabs did Sabra and Shatilla, although Sharon may have turned a blind eye while it was happening. I guess you didn't expect him to put his troops lives at risk to save Arab sorry asses who've been trying to kill him. I also notice that this little tirard, convienantly left out Hebron in 1929, Jerusalem in 1905, and the direct collaboration between the Mufti of Jerusalem and Hitler in the 1930's. You didn't mention that the Mufti is often credited with giving Hitler the idea of exterminating all the Jews of the world.

"I am Israel - carved in 1948 out of 78% of the land of Palestine, dispossessing its inhabitants and replacing them with Jews from Europe and other parts of the world. While the natives whose families lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over
the world are welcome to instant citizenship. "

This is laughable. First over 50% of the Jews who moved to Israel, came from Arab lands, where they were evicted in 1948 by those Arab cousins of yours. Second, according to demographics, most Arabs living in Palestine during the 1940's emmigrated to the region since the 1920's. This again was due to a many factions, least of which was the fact that the emerging Jewish lands of Palestine offered more job opportunities that the rest of the Arabian lands combined. The Jews of Hebron, whom you and yours evicted, lived in the land of Judah, longer than almost any Arabs did going back from 300 to 1200 years in some cases.

"I am Israel - in 1967, I swallowed the remaining lands of Palestine - the West Bank and Gaza - and placed their inhabitants under an oppressive military rule, controlling and humiliating every aspect of their daily lives. Eventually, they should get the message that they are not
welcome to stay, and join the millions of Palestinian refugees in the shanty camps of Lebanon and Jordan."

Duh, who started that war. To the victor the spoils. As far as humiliation, you brought that on yourselves with terror. You get what you deserve. I know many Israeli's and they would gladly give you peace, security, land, freedom, economic assistance, settle up the problems you believe were caused by Israel's creation, all they want is peace.

"I am Israel - I have the power to control American policy. My American Israel Public Affairs Committee can make or break any politician of its choosing, and as you see, they all compete to please me. All the forces of the world are powerless against me, including the UN as I have the American veto to block any condemnation of my war crimes. As Sharon so eloquently phrased it, "We control America". "

What a joke, no one can control America. Enron couldn't, Bill Gates can't, NYSE can't, Democrats can't, Republicans can't, the press can't. Why??? Because we're free! SOMETHING like that is beyond your ability to comprehend.

"I am Israel - I influence American mainstream media too, and you will always find the news tailored to my favor. I have invested millions of dollars into PR representation, and CNN, New York Times, and others have been doing an
excellent job of promoting my propaganda. Look at other
international news sources and you will see the difference."

Again, CNN, owned and influenced by the Jews??? I doubt it, it might as well be the english version of Al Jeezera. Now if you mentioned the New York Post, you might have had a point, by your choice of the NYT proves how little you know. Besides, Americans have the right to watch whatever they want, heck they can even get Al Jeezera here, can you get Arutz Sheva in Mecca or Medina? I also am impressed with the freedom of expression and the journalistic integrity of the Arab press. You make lawyers look like saints!

As for the rest, one side has reached peace every time one of your brothers asked for it! What did we steal from Egypt, nothing. WE GAVE everything they wanted for peace. What did we steal from Jordan, WE GAVE them everything they wanted for peace. Oh by the way, why didn't Jordan want the West Bank? Why didn't Egypt want Gaza? Know why! Because your sorry asses were on those pieces of land, and they didn't want your scum. Face it, you fight and kill us, but someday you'll realize that we may be the only friends you've got in the Middle East.



To: SouthFloridaGuy who wrote (1080)4/5/2002 4:15:34 PM
From: wgh613  Respond to of 2279
 
The premise of that writing is a lie from the start,which is causing the Palestinians to be pawns in a Chess game by other countries like Iran,Iraq,Saudi Arabia and Syria today.
The Arab nations' unwillingness to accept a Jewish state in the Middle East,made them go to war with the Israelis,and has led to the conflict today.

It is sad that the Palestinians are suffering because other Arab nations refuse to accept a Jewish state in the Middle East.
Otherwise,Yassir Arafat had a great chance to make peace with Israel.He blew it.



To: SouthFloridaGuy who wrote (1080)4/5/2002 5:43:21 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2279
 
Shifting Sands of U.S. Foreign Policy...

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