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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: rich4eagle who wrote (245821)4/7/2002 12:08:20 AM
From: Tadsamillionaire  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
"We are finishing the operation we started," said Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer.
The continuing battles came as Arab foreign ministers met in emergency session in Cairo to address the mounting crisis, protests spread across the Arab world and Mr. Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) of Britain met at the president's ranch in Texas to discuss the situation.
Two American-made Apache helicopter gunships circled overhead this afternoon, pouring rockets and gunfire into the casbah, Nablus's old city, a closed, twisting stone labyrinth that has become a redoubt for Palestinian fighters. At one point the helicopters unleashed a half-dozen rockets at the casbah, causing loud explosions and a cloud of smoke.

The fighting here and in the nearby city of Jenin pitted Israeli tanks and armor against Palestinians hiding among buildings on city streets and in refugee camps. Reports said that Palestinian commanders were handing out explosive suicide-bomber-type belts, and at times Palestinian fighters rushed in to try to blow up Israeli soldiers. Palestinian officials were warning this evening of a "massacre" in Nablus.

Nablus and the refugee camps on its edges, Balata and Askar, have long been strongholds of Palestinian militancy. Balata, which Israeli forces were reported attacking late this afternoon, is the birthplace of Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades, an offshoot of Yasir Arafat's mainstream Fatah (news - web sites) movement, which in recent weeks has moved to the forefront of suicide bombers. Palestinians say they have rigged the narrow, twisting streets and tunnels of the casbah with bombs and booby traps.

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IMHO........
Israel has every right to finish the war in there home land.
Terrorism is terrorism, and Bush has no right to tell Israel what to do or not to do and vise versa.



To: rich4eagle who wrote (245821)4/7/2002 5:02:27 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
YET AGAIN, THE HYPOCRISY CUP RUNNETH OVER....

George Bush campaigned on a platform of disdain that Bill Clinton would rely so heavily on polls to determine his opinions. Guess what? Looks like Dubya isn't changing a thing. He's lying, breaking a campaign promise and trying to do it secretly. Swell guy. A real public servant, and friend to the American voter? Well, it sure doesn't look like it......

salon.com

Poll-itics as usual
A Republican National Committee flack gets defensive -- and evasive -- as reporters try to pin down how much President Bush spends on pollsters. By Joshua Micah Marshall

April 5, 2002 | The Bush White House is being accused of being almost as addicted to polls as the Clinton White House was, and the new revelations have the spinmeisters at the Republican National Committee engaging in a fit of what Republicans usually deride as Clintonian double-talk and obfuscation.

An article by Washington Monthly's Joshua Green claims that while Bush's main pollsters billed $346,000 in 2001, the total bill for White House polling was "closer to $1 million." The story was picked up Wednesday by New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, who repeated the "closer to $1 million" estimate. (see op-ed piece below)

"The Bush White House," wrote Dowd, "is giving the Clinton White House a run for its polling money. Karl Rove ... devours polls as rapaciously as Dick Morris."

That didn't go over well with Jim Dyke of the RNC, who promptly called Green to give him a piece of his mind. Dyke was pissed, Green later told Salon, and questioned where Green came up with such a figure. Green said the estimate came from conversations with GOP sources who were unwilling to provide a precise figure. If Dyke disputed Green's numbers, Green asked Dyke to provide the actual figure.

"It's $731,000," Green recalls Dyke telling him over the phone. "I was like, 'Uh-huh, and isn't that a lot closer to $1 million than $346,000?'" That ended the conversation.

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nytimes.com

Addiction to Addition

By MAUREEN DOWD

WASHINGTON — One of the things I liked about George W. Bush when he started running was his scorn for polling.

He expressed, again and again, his contempt for the way the Clinton White House went dialing for opinions before deciding what to do.

"I think you got to look at . . . whether or not one makes decisions based on sound principles," Mr. Bush said, debating Al Gore. "Or whether or not you rely upon polls and focus groups on how to decide what the course of action is. We've got too much polling and focus groups going on in Washington today."

Mr. Bush proudly toted his disgust with polls into the Oval Office.

"We don't stick our finger in the air trying to figure out which way the wind is blowing," the president told steelworkers last August. "I do what I think is right for the American people. And we'll let the political chips fall where they may."

As it turns out, the chips are not falling quite so randomly.

The Bush White House, mirabile dictu, is giving the Clinton White House a run for its polling money. Karl Rove, a master of nasty push-polling for tobacco companies and politicians (the kind used to destroy John McCain in the South Carolina primary), devours polls as rapaciously as Dick Morris.

As George Stephanopoulos wrote in his memoir, Mr. Morris lived by a "60 percent" rule: If 6 out of 10 Americans were in favor of something, Bill Clinton had to be, too.

In the new Washington Monthly, Joshua Green reveals the extent of Bush polling: Republican records show that "Bush's principal pollsters received $346,000 in direct payments in 2001. Add to that the multiple boutique polling firms the administration regularly employs for specialized and targeted polls and the figure is closer to $1 million."

(That's about half as much as Mr. Clinton spent his first year, but about $1 million more than Mr. Bush led us to expect he'd spend.)

"But while Clinton used polling to craft popular policies," Mr. Green points out, "Bush uses polling to spin unpopular ones — arguably a much more cynical undertaking."

The nadir of Bill Clinton's presidency was when he asked Dick Morris to poll on whether he should tell the truth about Monica Lewinsky. But by that point he had already turned the ideal of the presidency upside down, letting arithmetic trump integrity as he painted his policies, principles and even his family vacations by the numbers. With the mathematical monkey on his back, he had to sell the Lincoln Bedroom to pay Mr. Morris to keep massaging the lead over Bob Dole.

The former president is still a courtesan to public opinion. Asked by Newsweek if he regretted the Marc Rich pardon, he says he wouldn't have done it if he had foreseen the damage to his reputation.

But the cheesy Clinton obsession with polling seems positively uplifting compared with the black arts of the Bush polling operation.

At least Mr. Clinton's impulse was democratic. He yearned to do what we wanted him to do — he was Sally-Field-desperate for us to really, really like him. Mr. Bush's impulse is autocratic. He wants to do what he (or Cheney & Rove) wants to do — and is desperate only to find a way to shove it down our throats.

Mr. Rove polls for the magic-button phrases and rationales that will persuade the middle class to help the rich get richer and build a mandate for smog from sea to oil-slicked sea.

Mr. Bush used poll-dictated phrases to reduce alarm about his Social Security plan, talking about "retirement security" and "choice," as opposed to the Democrats' "bankrupt" and "risky."

It seemed risible when pollsters were tripping over each other in the Clinton White House. Mark Penn set up an office in the closet of another aide's West Wing office.

But at least the Clintonites were upfront about their addiction to addition. The Bush method is all denial and secrecy, just like its energy plan. The president's pollsters, Jan van Lohuizen and Fred Steeper, are kept in a secure location — the very distant background.

Aides to Mr. Bush have spent the seven months since the terrorist attacks telling us about his "resolute" grit as a leader. Now we must wonder, every time they reiterate that the president is "focused," whether the word was focus-grouped.