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To: tcmay who wrote (76636)	4/7/2002 5:43:06 PM
From: Dave Budde	Respond to of 275872

Tim, I agree with your conclusion about it not being likely that Apple would introduce a HammerMac, but to me the more compelling reason not to is to avoid yet another required round of software upgrade by its customers AND the third party software developers. They are just now putting everyone through an upgrade cycle because of OS X. It would be suicide to do that again because of a new architecture. Plus, Apple would be foolish do an architecture change until they can support the entire product line with said architecture. Hammer might be attractive at the high end, but where does that leave the iMac line. They all need to run the same binaries.

To: tcmay who wrote (76636)	4/7/2002 6:17:28 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: at next January's big rolllout show...a good time to launch a HammerMac if AMD wants to steal some thunder Fact is, this has been in the works for a long time. Apple actually named AMD's 64-bit chip as part of the agreement put in place two years ago so that they could use the commercial with the Woman in running shorts throwing a Hammer at the screen that represented "me too" computing. One of the best advertising concepts ever, and finally scheduled to get some serious play. :-) PS: I'm kidding - aren't I?

To: tcmay who wrote (76636)	4/7/2002 7:05:40 PM
From: niceguy767	Respond to of 275872

tcmay: Thank you for your detailed and lucid evaluation. It's a "keeper" (i.e. added to hardcopy posts)

To: tcmay who wrote (76636)	4/7/2002 8:09:37 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Tim: Even if Apple were to adopt the Hammer, the <5% market share means what it means. (Granted, this <5% user base is visible, vocal, and influential...) Is there any definite information available on this? The best I could dig up was Internet usage statistics from TheCounter, placing Mac at 2% (for March, up from 1% in both January and February): thecounter.com The total count ("vistors", they claim, but more likely "visits") is at almost 400M, but there could well be differences in usage patterns between Mac and Windows users that skew the results. And there certainly are regional differences… I would assume by far most Mac users are found in North America. -fyo

To: tcmay who wrote (76636)	4/8/2002 9:37:55 PM
From: brushwud	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

I've been a Mac user since 1986, and an investor since 1984, and knew Woz and Jobs distantly back in the Homebrew Computer Club days of 1977-78. Also, a friend of mine lent them money to build the Apple I and then was a principal designer of the Apple II. Jobs & Wozniak sold their VW bus & HP calculator, respectively, to finance the Apple I. Jobs got the parts on credit and they sold the kits so fast they didn't need any other capital. The only principal designer of the Apple II was Wozniak, who did everything but the switching power supply. They really weren't coming to the HCC anymore in 1977-78, since they were busy around the clock preparing for the first West Coast Computer Faire in March, 1977, and dealing with the aftermath, but Chris Espinosa used to show up. If you've been an Apple investor since 1984, you have my sympathy.