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To: Elsewhere who wrote (23802)	4/7/2002 7:14:18 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Yes, Israel certainly has a free press. But though Ha'aretz is the prestige paper, its positions are moving farther and farther away from most Israelis', to judge by the polls. I remain astonished that Europe doesn't consider the Palestinians' strategic choice of suicide bombing civilians as the least little bit injurious to the justice of their cause. Did France feel that the bombs in its metro five years ago were a legitimate tactic? Did they assuage the "root causes" of this terrorism?

To: Elsewhere who wrote (23802)	4/7/2002 9:07:38 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 281500

The people's war Very interesting post. Thanks for getting other voices onto the thread.

To: Elsewhere who wrote (23802)	4/7/2002 9:41:09 PM
From: hueyone	Respond to of 281500

Interesting article---especially this statement: The groundless contention that former prime minister Ehud Barak offered the Palestinians "almost everything" and in return they set in motion a wave of terrorism, has become the most widely accepted axiom in Israeli public opinion. This is an axiom that I have come to accept myself and is an important point underlying my current support for Israel. Unfortunately the author failed to go on and support his conclusion of "groundlessness" in any way. However, if you have more links to discussion involving the Barak offer and subsequent rejection, I would be interested in reading about it. Thank you all for bringing a great series of articles to the thread. Back to lurking, Huey

To: Elsewhere who wrote (23802)	4/8/2002 12:41:56 AM
From: DrGrabow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Barak's generous offer.... Someone asked about it. A map of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza. fmep.org Sharon and Barak's proposal. history.pomona.edu Maps and unbiased(?) analysis of the plan. danpal.dk The West Bank and the Gaza Strip, captured in 1967, comprise 22% of pre-1948 Palestine. When the Palestinians signed the Oslo Agreement in 1993 they agreed to accept only these 22% and recognize Israel within the Green Line borders. Conceding 78% of the land was a historical Palestinian compromise. But this compromise was not enough for Barak. In his offer to the Palestinians, Barak demanded the following: 69 settlements are included in this area, where 85% of the settlers live. It is clearly visible that The blocs create impossible borders, which severely disrupt Palestinian life in the West Bank.