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To: stockman_scott who wrote (23829)4/7/2002 9:52:35 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Get out of the territories and leave what in their place, ss? The Israelis were preparing to get out and leave a peaceful government in place. But they are not prepared to withdraw in favor of a Palestinian Taliban in suburbs of Jerusalem.

Palestinians who use suicide bombers to blow up Israelis at a Passover meal and then declare "Just end the occupation and everything will be fine" are not believable

the Palestinians cannot, at this moment, be trusted to run those territories on their own without making them a base of future operations against Israel

Friedman makes these arguments without drawing the natural conclusion of his arguments. If the Palestinians cannot be trusted to run their own affairs, they are hardly likely to invite NATO in to run it for them, are they? So Friedman is talking about a regime change in the territories. The first step towards a regime change is the defeat -- real defeat, not another survival proclaimed as victory -- for the current regime.

Only after Arafat's thugs are out of the picture and someone besides Hamas is running the social services is there any hope of a NATO occupation without suicide bombers. This is the natural conclusion of Friedman's arguments, the one that he still fights shy of making.



To: stockman_scott who wrote (23829)4/8/2002 2:35:26 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
What I fear, though, is that Sharon wants to get rid of Arafat in order to keep Israeli West Bank settlements, not to create the conditions for them to be withdrawn.

That quote from Freedman is the most succinct statement I've seen of the principle dilemma.