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To: tekboy who wrote (23832)	4/7/2002 11:13:52 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

What he was saying sounded despairing to me; he ran down the proposed solutions and called them all chimerical. It is hard to draw an upbeat conclusion from this premise: Instead of Palestinian diplomacy there is Palestinian delirium. This people that demands sovereignty is utterly without sovereignty over its passions. It prizes its passions more than it prizes any politics. It regards a cease-fire, a respite from the carnage that would make possible a resumption of negotiations, as a defeat. It is acting on a doctrine that might be called strategic death. I think Sharon, who I think has more imagination than most credit him with, but less maneuvering room perhaps, has come to the conclusion that a regime that has settled on the doctrine of "strategic death" must be defeated. Like Friedman, Wieseltier sees the premise but is unwilling to come to the necessary conclusion.

To: tekboy who wrote (23832)	4/8/2002 4:10:45 AM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

He was shooting at too many things wasn't he? The ethical and practical disadvantages of the suicide campaign, the origin and support of islamicism in Saudi Arabia, US failure to confront Saudis about that, hypnotism of foreign policy by Saudi oil, etc. My goodness, it reads like one of my more hysterical posts here! (Like Wieseltier, I'm surprised at the easy ride the Saudis have got from US since September. Can't figure that out. Try a stunt like that in Moscow or Beijing and see what you get!) I think this was his point but he surely didn't develop it as it came right at the end after all the other stuff: "There is no reason for foreign soldiers to spare the Palestinians the pangs of auto-emancipation. Otherwise no peace will ever be real."