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To: Frederick Langford who wrote (23912)	4/8/2002 2:33:37 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Oh, I expect suicide bombing to become far more common than it is already. I am surprised it hasn't, already. It's becoming endemic because it's effective. As long as the potential bomber has a political objective more dear than life itself, there will be suicide bombers. The United States is not going house to house in Afghanistan, looking through linen closets and pantries, searching for weapons. Nor is the United States rounding up all Afghani men over the age of puberty, and placing them in detention camps. This may work in the short term, but I believe it will backfire, horribly.

To: Frederick Langford who wrote (23912)	4/8/2002 2:36:52 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

>>Israel court ruling confirms denial of prisoners' rights By Harvey Morris in Jerusalem Published: April 7 2002 18:48 \| Last Updated: April 7 2002 20:36 The Israeli Supreme Court refused to overturn an army order denying Palestinian prisoners legal rights, despite hearing allegations of torture at a detention camp near Ramallah. The tribunal threw out a petition from four Israeli human rights groups on Sunday, which quoted an Israeli source at the Ofer detention centre as saying detainees were being subjected to torture during interrogation, including repeated instances of them having their toes broken. In an order last Friday, the army said detainees would not have access to lawyers during their permitted period of arrest, which was at the same time extended from eight to 18 days. Quoting testimony from the unidentified witnes s, Sharon Avraham-Weis, lawyer for the petitioners, said: "Soldiers dragged one man by the legs back and forth in the mud before standing him against a wall, pulling him by the hair and banging his head against the wall. The witness heard noises from nearby rooms that sounded like heads being banged against a wall." Blindfolded and bound, prisoners were told they would be shown no mercy if they failed to name suspects, according to the testimony. One detainee, who questioned why he, a doctor, had been arrested, was allegedly told: "We don't know who is a terrorist. That's why we're arresting everybody." The army said that by the weekend 1,600 people had been rounded up throughout the West Bank. It said 800 had since been released, although human rights groups have so far been unable to contact them. Malchiel Blas, government lawyer, defending the army's ban on legal representation, said: "The army is subject to unprecedented conditions that make it impossible for us to work according to the norms." Rejecting the human rights groups' request for a restraining order against the army, Shlomo Levine, chairman of the Supreme Court tribunal, said the panel accepted the state's argument that the present circumstances justified extraordinary measures. Lior Yavne of B'Tselem, one of the groups that lodged the petition, said it would return to court when it had first-hand evidence of maltreatment. The court hearing came amid increasingly urgent reports of human rights abuses and destruction in the West Bank towns reoccupied by Israel. In a report sent to Tony Blair, UK prime minister, Oxfam said: "We are extremely concerned that the full extent of the humanitarian situation is being overlooked, and that the international community is failing in its duty to promote the provisions of the Geneva Conventions which assure the protection of civilians in the conflict." The UK-based charity said an estimated 400,000 people in the West Bank were without running water as a result of the destruction of equipment and pipes by Israeli tanks and bulldozers. Mark Neumann of Amnesty International, spoke in Jerusalem of the deliberate targeting of civilians and said: "Unlawful killings must be investigated and those who have carried them out or ordered them must be brought to justice." Additional reporting by Danny Kopp << news.ft.com That's the Financial Times, not exactly a PLO shill.