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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: HH who wrote (2017)	4/8/2002 5:06:49 PM
From: Cage Rattler	Respond to of 32591

<<Attacks that Strike Horror into the Hearts of the Enemies of Allah" Within the past year, Sheikh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, the top Egyptian cleric of Al-Azhar University, has shifted his position regarding the targeting of civilians in suicide bombings. While he previously stated that Palestinians should refrain from targeting civilians,[1] he recently declared that martyrdom (suicide) operations and the killing of civilians are permitted acts and that more such attacks should be carried out. Tantawi's positions were posted on www.lailatalqadr.com , a website associated with Al-Azhar. The following are excerpts from the report: "The great Imam of Al-Azhar Sheikh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, demanded that the Palestinian people, of all factions, intensify the martyrdom operations [i.e. suicide attacks] against the Zionist enemy, and described the martyrdom operations as the highest form of Jihad operations. He says that the young people executing them have sold Allah the most precious thing of all." "[Sheikh Tantawi] emphasized that every martyrdom operation against any Israeli, including children, women, and teenagers, is a legitimate act according to [Islamic] religious law, and an Islamic commandment, until the people of Palestine regain their land and cause the cruel Israeli aggression to retreat" These words were spoken at a reception held by Sheikh Tantawi for Israeli Arab Democratic Party leader Abd Al-Wahhab Al-Darawsheh and the delegation that accompanied him. During the meeting, Al-Darawsheh stressed the depth of relations between the Palestinian and Egyptian peoples, and stated that the Palestinian people was steadfast, would not abandon its land and would continue in its path until it achieved one of two good things: victory or martyrdom.[2] Egypts new mufti, Sheikh Dr. Ahmad Al-Tayyeb, also expressed his support for suicide attacks. Sheikh Al-Tayyeb took office when the term of his predecessor, Sheikh Nasr Farid Wasil, was not renewed due to his opposition to Sheikh Tantawis previous religious rulings against suicide attacks. Until now, in all of his interviews with the Egyptian press since becoming mufti, Sheikh Al-Tayyeb has avoided discussing suicide bombings. But since Sheikh Tantawi's call for suicide attacks, Sheikh Al-Tayyeb has declared that "the solution to the Israeli terror lies in a proliferation of Fidai [martyrdom] attacks that strike horror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah. The Islamic countries, peoples and rulers alike, must support these martyrdom attacks."[3] It should be noted that a March 18, 2002 demonstration at Al-Azhar University featured eight students who had been trained to carry out suicide attacks against Israelis.[4] Volunteering for suicide bombings against Israelis has become a popular expression in Egypt so much so that Mahmoud Al-Zahhar, a Hamas leader in Gaza, told the Israeli Arab weekly Kul Al-Arab, "Two days ago, in Alexandria, enrolment began for volunteers for martyrdom [operations]. Two thousand students from the University of Alexandria signed up to die a martyrs death. This is the real Egyptian people."[5]>>

To: HH who wrote (2017)	4/8/2002 5:15:53 PM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 32591

Approximately 720,000 Arabs were displaced during 1948. (http://www.jajz-ed.org.il/100/maps/refuge.html.) Of 870,000 Jews that lived in Arab states about 600,000 Jewish refugees were absorbed by Israel after 1948. jajz-ed.org.il To me it is a simple "exchange of populations as it has occurred between Pakistan and India, Greece and Turkey, Germany and Poland/Russia and in many other places in the world. Israel took care of its refugees, the Arabs kept theirs in squalid camps as political pawns, refusing them citizenship (except Jordan), and Kuwait even forcibly evicted the Palestinians it had after the Gulf war. Where was the world outrage then. Well during the cold war, the Soviets had a political interest in not solving the problems of those refugees to keep the Middle east in turmoil (they were the suppliers of arms to those countries). The funny thing is that the Soviets (through Chechoslovakia) where the first to supply arm to the nascent state of Israel, not for their love of the Jews mind you (Stalin was a real pure bread anti-semite), but to keep the turmoil in the region alive. They had vague hopes that Israel will turn out to be a "client state", mostly because the back bone of Israeli society at the time was the collectives movement (kibbutzes, which were Islands of communism within the Capitalistic state), in 1953, they lost all hopes and started to turn and changed the tactic to support some of the neighboring Arab nations (Egypt, Syria and Iraq). The question is not one of "fairness", I have no question in my mind about that, the question is what do ewe do now that the Arab nations have failed for 50 years to bear their responsibilities, and kept those refugees living on the false hope of "throwing the Jews to the sea", kept inciting them and their own populations to hate, support the movement of Palestinian terrorism and refuse to face reality. Zeev Zeev

To: HH who wrote (2017)	4/9/2002 9:34:51 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

I've read that there were about 450 Arab villages prior to 1948, of which only 50 or so survive. Moshe Dayan in a speech to Israeli students in 1969...."We came to this country which was already populated by Arabs, and we are establishing a Hebrew, that is a Jewish state here. In considerable areas of the country we bought the lands from the Arabs. Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I don't blame you, because these geography books no longer exist; not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. .. There is not a single community in the country that did not have a former Arab population."