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To: epsteinbd who wrote (23985)	4/8/2002 8:05:53 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

King Hussein did not attack, or intended to attack Israel in 67. Israel "included" him in the fight, and won. The intersting telephone conversation aired on the first night of the war,(mossad) between Nasser and Hussein, clearly demonstrate it too, if need be, when Hussein finally agrees to Nasser request that he states that US airmen helped the Israeli on that day. ( He never fully recovered from that lie.) That's not true, Israel asked Hussein not to invade, but he did anyway. He couldn't afford to stay out. The Israelis tapped the phonecall between Nasser and Hussein where Nasser denied losing his airforce (he lied), which as Hussein later said, caused him to make several decisions he would not have otherwise.

To: epsteinbd who wrote (23985)	4/8/2002 8:15:21 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

1/ King Hussein did not attack, or intended to attack Israel in 67. Israel "included" him in the fight, and won. The intersting telephone conversation aired on the first night of the war,(mossad) between Nasser and Hussein, clearly demonstrate it too, if need be, when Hussein finally agrees to Nasser request that he states that US airmen helped the Israeli on that day. ( He never fully recovered from that lie.) Do you have a source for that? I have this vague recollection of stories of cooked communications between Egypt and Jordan, but I couldn't find much when I looked it up recently. Did Bramford write about it in Puzzle Palace? 2/ When Hussein accepted to let go of his West Bank, it is under full pressure of all main Arab nations, in Rabat, Morocco, early eighties. Arafat is there too, and inherits his rights. Hussein had no choice but to bow, even if it was the best for his nerves. Not for Israel, as it is obvious now. I imagine passing the West Bank back to Jordan would have been tough after Black September, which was fairly early on, .

To: epsteinbd who wrote (23985)	4/8/2002 11:13:19 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

King Hussein did not attack, or intended to attack Israel in 67. I think Nadine answered that one pretty well... She's absolutely right... Phone conversations between Nasser and Hussein were monitored. Nasser lied to Hussein and convinced him to join the war. Hussein complied, and lost the West Bank as a result. The Israeli Prime Minister had personally phone Hussein, begging him NOT to involve himself in the battle between Israel and Egypt. Hussein ignored him. Hawk