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To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24104)4/9/2002 12:34:44 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Respond to of 281500
 
>>> it is a fact that Arafat's uncle was a major supporter of Hitler and pushed hitler towards a 'final solution' for jews. <<<<<

well those stories no one wants to know about, also not of the fact that the Muslim SS forces in the Balkans organized by the Jerusalm Mufti, Arafat uncle, settled, after WWII, with their families in the area which is now claimed by the arabs as "Palestine"

further no one is interested that Arafat smuggled arms to be used against the British forces in the 1940thies or that Arafat is actually an Egyptian who was interested to promote his uncle policy of exterminating the Jews with the help of the German forces under Hitler, not is any one interested that in the Nurenberg trials after W.W.II the Jerusalem Mufti was sentenced to death only to find shelter in Egypt who refused to extradite him.

Nor is any one interested in the fact that the propaganda tactics and arab newspapers are using the same anti Semitic material used by the SS and Goebels in WWII.

....... well and the list is long .............



To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24104)4/9/2002 12:36:04 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Under the ruse of self-defense, Isra-El can claim all the land from Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River if the brain dead American administration will allow it.

We Canadian Jews and Jews from Israel and other countries
living in Canada, including children and grandchildren of
Holocaust victims and survivors support the appeal made by
Canada's Prime Minister, Jean Chretien to Israel.

Israel should respect the recent United Nations resolution to
withdraw its forces from the Palestinian territories and to return
to a dialogue towards peace.

Violence aimed at killing and destruction - regardless of
whether it is carried out by suicide bombers or by uniformed
soldiers - will not bring a solution.

A viable peace resulting in a sovereign Palestinian State and
security for Israel can be achieved.

THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE TO NEGOTIATIONS.

THERE IS NO MILITARY SOLUTION FOR EITHER SIDE.

To sign this petition send your name, occupation and city to
tikkuntoronto@sympatico.ca
with Subject (Petition For Withdrawal Of Israeli Troops).

******************

Tikkun Community tikkun.org consists of people
from many faiths and traditions committed to building a world
of love and caring, social justice and peace. Our core vision is
inspired by Jewish spiritual wisdom and the concept of tikkun-
to mend, repair and transform the world.



To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24104)4/9/2002 12:37:00 PM
From: DrGrabow  Respond to of 281500
 
it is a fact that Arafat's uncle was a major supporter of Hitler and pushed hitler towards a 'final solution' for jews.

Let's not forget.....

the enemy of my enemy is my friend

motlc.wiesenthal.com

Perceptions of the Nazis and the British.

Stern propounded the idea that there was a difference between a "persecutor" and an "enemy." Persecutors, from Haman to Hitler, had sought to destroy the Jews throughout the ages; but an enemy is much more dangerous, because he occupies the Jewish homeland. This reasoning led Stern to see Britain as the principal enemy. Stern accepted Jabotinsky's view that there was a difference between Nazi antisemitism and Polish antisemitism, but he argued that since it had been demonstrated that a common language could be found with Polish antisemitism -- by winning its support for Jabotinsky's plan for the "evacuation" of Polish Jewry and its secret support for a war of liberation -- it followed that it might also be possible to reach an understanding with Nazi antisemitism.

Contact with the Axis.

At the end of 1940, Stern, with the backing of his Lehi command, sent an emissary by the name of Naphtali Lubenchik to Beirut, then under the control of Vichy France, to establish contact with the Axis representatives there and broach the idea of establishing a Jewish state within the framework of the "New Order." Such an idea had apparently been discussed regarding Italy earlier in 1940, its principal element being that a Jewish protectorate would be set up in Palestine to which the Jews of Europe would be transferred. No permanent contact, however, had been established with Italy, and it seems that the "Italian option" was dropped in view of Italy's military defeats in the Western Desert and in Greece.
In early 1941 Stern's emissary met with Otto Werner von Hentig, a German Foreign Ministry representative, and submitted a memorandum on "the community of interests between the German concept of the New Order in Europe and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people, as represented by the Irgun." Stern was not authorized to speak on behalf of the Irgun, but only in the name of his own group (which numbered up to two hundred members), and on its behalf he offered political, military, and intelligence support to Nazi Germany, in exchange for the creation of a Jewish state and the formation of Jewish military units in occupied Europe that would take part in the conquest of Palestine.



To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24104)4/9/2002 12:54:45 PM
From: teevee  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
William,

it is a fact that Arafat's uncle was a major supporter of Hitler and pushed hitler towards a 'final solution' for jews.

and its also a fact that Sharon and his cabinet believe that arabs within Israel are "vermin" and "pests" that must be "removed". That kind of language sounds not only sounds a lot like the "Final Solution", but provides insight into how dangerous the current Israeli government really is. What really scares me is that this mad man and war monger, Sharon, has nuclear WMDs. I think it scares the hell out of the Bush administration too. If Sharon uses a tactical nuclear WMD on an Arab League member, western interests in the middle east will be severely damaged for a long long time.