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To: marcos who wrote (8005)	4/9/2002 10:05:08 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 21057

GOOD IDEA! Probably cost less money too. Need a lawyer now and then to get some people out of jail. OTOH, it would cost them as much or more to jail them. Really screws up your image when the world sees you beating people up who aren't resisting. Ask those guys with the dogs and water cannons in the South in the '60s.

To: marcos who wrote (8005)	4/10/2002 7:59:27 AM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Yep, Arabs are Semites. And boy are you right about the Palestinians needing a Ghandi. I do wonder what would change their perspective enough to make them follow a figure like that. I'm beginning to understand the term "blood lust" very well recently. Is there a cure for it?

To: marcos who wrote (8005)	4/10/2002 10:24:41 AM
From: TigerPaw	Respond to of 21057

passive resistance only, fully documented with realtime television by satellite uplink That was basicly the 1st intifada circa 1989. All the Arab stores and shops were closed except for about an hour. Of course the door would be barely open and you could go inside and buy if you were discrete. It did not work. TP

To: marcos who wrote (8005)	4/10/2002 7:25:00 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

One more time... INS Chief Ordered Elian E-Mail Destroyed, Watchdog Group Charges Wednesday, April 10, 2002 MIAMI — The head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service ordered the destruction of an e-mail that could have bolstered the request for asylum filed for Elian Gonzalez during the Cuban boy's stay in Miami, a conservative watchdog group said Wednesday. A handwritten notation at the bottom of an INS memo dated Dec. 29, 1999, said that Doris Meissner, then the INS commissioner, ordered the memo destroyed the very next day. A copy of the memo survived and was made public Wednesday by Washington-based Judicial Watch. It discussed the possibility that Elian's father at one time had sought a visa to move to the United States. It also discussed allegations that the Cuban government had been coercing the father, Juan Miguel Gonzalez. If coercion could be shown, the roughly drafted e-mail memo said, INS could "potentially accept the child's asylum's application and advise that there is no prohibition on age to child filing application. As such PA should proceed." "PA" apparently refers to "political asylum." The memo, written by INS attorney Rebeca Sanchez Roig, summarized a conference call on the Elian case involving several INS employees, including Meissner. The handwritten notation on a printout of the e-mail memo, added by Roig some point after the memo was written, said Meissner ordered the destruction of all copies of the memo through another INS official. It also said Meissner ordered that no more discussions related to Elian's case be put in writing. Elian was rescued at sea off Florida in November 1999 after his mother and most of the other passengers traveling illegally from Cuba to the United States died when their boat capsized. The boy was temporarily placed with relatives in Miami who, backed by other Cuban exiles, fought to keep the child in the United States. The federal government said Elian should be reunited with his father in Cuba. An INS spokeswoman in Miami, Patricia Mancha, said she could not immediately comment on the memo. Meissner, reached at her home in the Washington area, said she could not comment because she was not aware of the details of the allegations. Judicial Watch attorneys said the copy of the memo was provided to them this week by INS lawyer Diana Alvarez. It was cited Tuesday at a civil service hearing on INS special agent Ricardo Ramirez's claims of threats, harassment and anti-Cuban-American sentiment in the INS Miami office at the time of Elian's stay in the United States. In March, a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit in which Ramirez claimed he was harassed for reporting alleged anti-Cuban bias in the agency after the Elian case.