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To: SilentZ who wrote (144429)	4/10/2002 2:13:38 AM
From: AK2004	Respond to of 1576392

Z re: OK...can we please clear up this "Khazar" thing? my understanding of it, which is very likely ro be wrong, is that complete conversion is just a legend even though that many refer to this as a fact. The ruling family was converted to judaism. And because of its tolerance for religions it helped its trade etc. Russia at that time was a collection of slavic tribes and the largest one was paying duty to Khazars but I do not recall why because I can not recall Khazar ever having war with Kiev's Russia, now Ukrain. At one point Oleg, the ruler, sent his army to completely destroy the kingdom of Khazars. Again, only the ruling family was ever jewish and they fled to north and were absorbed by small jewsh communities. Later on more jews migrated from Western Europe so Khazar blood line is there but just a token. re: Besides, I don't feel like the validity to the claims to the land is affected by the events much before last century, but then again. I agree, I am not a religious person either but from what I understand Jews recognized those who converted as legit Jews. Even if Ashkenazis would be Khazars 100% they would still have a claim but in reality one should imagine how small percentage of Khazar blood there considering that it was only ruling family who were jewish before they were absorbed. That is the story how I heard it. Regards -Albert

To: SilentZ who wrote (144429)	4/10/2002 3:06:18 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576392

So, in somewhere between the 7th and 9th centuries, AD, the Khazars were supposedly a pagan kingdom where the king decided he'd had enough of being a pagan, and invited representatives of all major religions to talk about their religions... he listened to all of them and decided to convert his kingdom to Judaism. As the legend has it, eventually these people all disappeared. No wonder I didn't know about the Khazars......they didn't teach legends at my middle school. <g> Was it the rapture again that took all those people? That rapture turns up in the damnest places. ted

To: SilentZ who wrote (144429)	4/10/2002 12:42:01 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576392

Z, It's actually rooted in a Jewish legend... not really historically traceable... Now, first off, if this country ever existed, it was quite small, which is why there's no historical evidence of it. I am not sure why you are trying to belittle it. The country definitely existed, there is apparently evidence of conversion to Judaism. Besides, I don't feel like the validity to the claims to the land is affected by the events much before last century As Albert posted (I can't find the link), there are other reasons for the claim to the land of Israel, being descendants of people is just one of them, and I think Albert has a valid point. Joe