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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13526)	4/10/2002 5:03:26 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

What is more terrorizing, an F-16, tank, or gunship or the threat of a suicide bomber in your midst? >>>> The danger of the assymetric warfare is that is under control of no gvn, can't be influenced and any negotiation/concession would only lead to the new demands..Shadow Terror groups understand only force..

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13526)	4/10/2002 6:41:23 PM
From: epsteinbd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Bit of a correction on your history, Len. The English guys were hanging the Jewish terrorists, while the Jews were capturing British officers and leaving them caged, and in underpants in the early morning hours in downtowns. Till the King David bombing, that is, by then the UK got the message. But the Jews did warn, you know, phoned the hotel fifteen minutes before, just like the Arafat people in the last eight years...

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13526)	4/10/2002 8:33:44 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Is there any difference between Zionist Jews and Len Grasso settling on land stolen from American Indians in the Pacific Northwest?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13526)	4/11/2002 5:14:58 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Top leaders in the U.S. Congress earlier expressed support for Israel and Sharon after meeting with Bush over breakfast, saying it was important U.S. policymakers maintain a united front while Powell was in the Middle East seeking an elusive cease-fire. "I don't think there has been any diminution of support," U.S. Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle said afterward. He had been asked whether support for Sharon was eroding within Congress or the White House. U.S. House of Representatives Democratic leader Richard Gephardt of Missouri said, "We will stand with Israel." reuters.com

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13526)	4/11/2002 7:11:50 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

American Sympathy Toward Israel and the Arabs/Palestinians us-israel.org

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13526)	4/11/2002 7:41:26 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Powell is to meet with Yasser Arafat (news - web sites) on Saturday. A senior administration official in Washington said Powell intends to warn the Palestinian leader that the United States is prepared to sever ties with him unless he renounces terrorism. "The message is: This is it. Last chance," said the official, speaking only on condition of anonymity. story.news.yahoo.com

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13526)	4/12/2002 9:40:54 AM
From: Angler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Sometimes I have to agree with you on some points, Len. For my opinions I refer to the world acclaimed reporter, war correspondent (since 1929) and journalist, Joseph P.Harsch. In his memoirs AT THE HINGE OF HISTORY in chap. titled ARABS and ISRAELIS he wrote in 1993 the following, pg. 213: "Since the 1967 war the U.S. has subsidized Israel at an official rate that, from a small beginning, has gradually risen to about 3.7 billion a year. The actual subsidy, if all forms of U.S. support to Israel are counted, runs much higher; it includes such items as U.S. help with the cost of moving Jewish immigrants from the Soviet Union, of building houses for those immigrants in Israel, of treating the interest on Israel Gov't bonds and contributions to Israel charities as tax exempt, of tariff exemptions for Israeli goods entering the U.S., and of paying for some Israeli weapons built in Israel. Add to this the $2 bill a year the U.S. pays to Egypt to be at peace with Israel. Financial support for Israel takes many forms and since 1967 amounts in fact to the U.S. paying what it costs Israel to NOT make peace with the neighboring Arabs by refusing to surrender the occupied territories. In very rough terms the U.S. provides more than one thousand dollars a year to every Jew in Israel.......... The net conclusion from all the above is that under present conditions Israel has little incentive to take the final step necessary for a lasting peace with its Arab neighbors............The subsidy is not in danger so long as the condition of suspended hostility remains." This is extracted from the book published in 1994. Some sentences were removed from the paragraph continuity for the sake of brevity. To complete one's education the entire chapter should be read from beginning to end. For further confirmation of some of the treaty violations and later deviations from prior agreements with the Arabs by even President Franklin Roosevelt, I would refer you to a very long arduously precise book by Dean Acheson, President Truman's Sec'ty. of State, "PRESENT AT THE CREATION" in particular the Chap. titled, "The puzzle of Palestine." There's much more than meets the eye in the present chaos guaranteed by actions taken by and not taken by the great powers after WW2. Redundant Biblical arguments have little to do with it. Angler