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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2065)4/11/2002 11:03:24 PM
From: Nukeit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32591
 
Well it looks like Arafat is not fooling the U.S. congress. Today they were going to pass a bill declaring that Arafat and gang were terrorist. Daschle stopped it because he thought that it would interfere with Powell's mission. My guess is that this is really really Arafats last chance to ring in his cockroaches. Looks like Bush will now have the backing of congress if he decides to declare a terrorist a terrorist. I bet Netanyahu's speech hit home.



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2065)4/12/2002 8:57:28 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32591
 
Zeev, I hope Bibi speech helps but it does not seems so.

My mother mentioned to me several times that the whole World situation is a replay of the pre- W.W.II era .... murder of Jews, burning Synagogues attacks on Jewish sport clubs, cemeteries etc. ...... and Europe does not care ....... and most newspapers write about the poor attacker who act out of "desperation" ........ ( after 1929 the world plunged in a deep recession) ......... the bottom line who cares is Jews anywere are murdered .......

Yesterday Jordans King did not condemned out right homicide bombing and murders he gave a "round the bush" answer to CNN

Interesting to read the various nuances of the headlines of the newspapers today.



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2065)4/12/2002 10:26:27 AM
From: E. T.  Respond to of 32591
 
The three things Netanyahu says Israel must now do, I believe will not prevent terrorists from reaching Israel and will not restore stability to the region.
I believe a moderate political voice needs to establish itself among the palestinian people before there will be an end to violence, together with a plan for buidling a decent place for the palestinians to live with proper schooling for their children. I say, if you keep them in misery, shut them up behind a wall, continue to expand settlements, allow the jew-hating indoctrination of their children to continue, then the violence will never end.



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2065)4/12/2002 1:46:32 PM
From: Tom Pulley  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 32591
 
Zeev, I'm glad you copied Netanyahu's speech as it was well worth reading. He definitely knows how to relate to Americans, but beyond that he seems to be able to boil down the issues into a perspective that makes sense. The quote below really hit home to me:

"It is hope - the hope of terrorists systematically brainwashed by the ideologues who manipulate them that their savagery will break the will of their enemies and
help them achieve their objectives - political,
religious, or otherwise.

Defeat this hope and you defeat terrorism.
Convince terrorists, their sponsors, and potential
new recruits that terrorism will be thoroughly
uprooted and severely punished and you will stop it
cold in its tracks."

I lived in Pakistan in the 1980's and at that time Americans were safe due to a fear of American power and resultant consequences. That fear no longer exists and Americans are no longer safe there.

The one question I have, and please excuse my lack of knowledge and take this in the light of someone wanting to learn more, but the perception I have from news reports and various articles I've read is that Israel has continued to settle and develop the occupied land from the 1967 war. As a result, my wife and I have always felt that building on the occupied land is a huge loss of face for the Palestinians. And we wonder if there can ever be peace if Israel continues that process. Clearly Israel was not the aggressor and it made sense to occupy additional land initially. It seems like that land would be a good bargaining chip for peace if not settled. But is the continued development necessary and isn't that a continual provocation? To Americans, perhaps that is one reason that Israel is not always 100% supported by the general population. I don't think it is an issue of religion. Right or wrong my sense is that it is a perception that Israel is partly the aggressor.

Another point of interest from Netanyahu's speech was the quote of:

" in the last eighteen months, Israel's six million
citizens have buried over four hundred victims of
terror - a per capita toll equivalent to half a dozen
September 11ths."

There is no doubt that if I lived in Israel under these circumstances, I would agree with Sharon's decision.

Tom



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2065)4/12/2002 4:40:56 PM
From: HH  Respond to of 32591
 
IN my opinion, Netanyahu's was simply brilliant. I hope
to see a replay over the weekend. He is such an articulate
speaker and a commanding figure. He speach ranks with
Bush's famous address to congress after Sept 11.

As a non-jew, I am 1000% behind Israel's right to defend herself and admire her use of measured force and courage in the face of world opinion.

HH